4X4 haters?
I drive a 4X4 and have done for 5 years. I have never had an accident, never had trouble parking and run my car on LPG.
My car is probably greener than all of you whingers, I can see a lot further ahead of you and I don't block your view as my car doesn't have tinted windows. I am courteous, give way to a lot of other drivers as I know they may be intimidated by the size of my car.
Stop slating 4X4 drivers please! I know for a fact that none of you have ever driven a 4X4 because if you had you would know that you have never felt safer or more in control of a car.
What is your problem?
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Some of this anti-4x4 thing is probably more driven by politics and envy, with the environment thing used to cover it up.
I know right.
But maybe thats because
youre a good driver.
I don't know, all i know is that 4x4s are awesome
They do block the view of the road actually , whether the windows are tinted or not. And how is it greener than a small 1ltr engine?
My Nissan Micra is 1ltr engine and it goes fine!
I have absolutely no envy.if I wanted to get a 4x4 I could - even if I couldn't afford it i'd just get a loan like every other fool in the country!
I have a Audi A4 Quattro Sport.. Its a 4 wheel drive but not a big stupid thing. Why should i get the flack too
You do block the view! Its not the windows its the height of the doors. And please give us some evidence for your car being greener than my little one? What are the engine capacity and the greenhouse gas output?
Surely driving 2 tons of metal about is less green than driving 1 ton.
It's incredibly irresponsible!
I agree completely its there fricken problem they bought a little car and yes u are more safer in a 4x4 although they do roll a little bit easier
I probably won't get best answer for this - but it is all about attitude.
My problem as you put it - is the tone of your question.
In reality, I am neutral about 4*4s.
Are you overweight and unattractive by any chance?
I think you have problem with 4x4. no body complained about it. why do you raise a question to point out you own problem? The only answer is you fhave that kind of ego that only you would understand..
Basically your question is not a question. You want to challenge people. Maybe it works, but just be careful never say never,.. accident happens all the time!!
I second that motion!! I've driven my 4x for five years as well. and not an accident among 'em. My truck is safe, has Xlnt visibility, is not the kind of vehicle you'd be speeding around town in(not one ticket since I've had it either), and still gets22mpg. It enables me to make less trips into town as well, since I can load it all up with five times as much stuff as I could in a car, saving gas in the long run.
I can see the point of hating on all the tools who feel the need to drive the Hum-Vee's to sit in bumper to bumper traffic burning 12mpg.but leave the rest of us alone! I love my truck and will never drive anything else again.when I get into a car now.I feel like I'm in a deathtrap with no protection.
i'm with you
Do you have kids?
http://environment.guardian.co.uk/travel.
"They have discovered one pollution monitor near Sloane Street last year registered an average annual level of nitrogen dioxide, a pollutant which can aggravate lung problems, that was two-and-a-half times the recommended World Health Organisation maximum."
Would you want them to live in an area so polluted?
NB I'm not having a go, it's your choice.
to simplify-- 4x4 were designed so you could travel off the road( i'm not implying up curbs) so, if you work on a farm, work in construction or the like, you can travel to and from, and carry out, your work.You dont need 4x4 to travel up and down motorways.By design they use more fuel, and on top of this are usually larger and heavier.So the question for 4x4 drivers is why have you got one? if the answer is to carry your suit and briefcase to work each day then i wont hate you , i will take the p++s out of you for being foolish and falling victim to an american fashion of automobile.
4x4 are idea in town on the school run etc, easy to get in and out excellent vision soak up speedbumps, kerbs etc with their soft suspension, perfect. They also tow well off road.
However on Country lanes they are too wide to pass in comfort, horribly unstable
What do you mean by 4X4? Why is everyone so vague? You could be talking about a Geo Tracker for all we know.
To squash a few things.
If your "big bad SUV" is greener than any import car, its probably not so big or bad.
Tint on your windows has VERY little to do with you being in the flippen way blocking my view. You have doors to.
I don't think anyone is "intimidated" by SUV's or 4X4s, don't get a big ego.
So I guess you KNOW FOR FACT I have never driven a 4X4?
***For personal work I drive a 1994 Ford F-250 4X4 Extended cab long bed turbo diesel.
***At work I commonly drive 2006-2007 Nissan Titans and Armadas.
***But what do I prefer to drive out of my options every day, that also include a 2002 VW Jetta Turbo and a 1994 Camry? My 2003 Hyundai Tiburon GTV6
I know for FACT you don't know what your talking about, because even in a state-of-the art 2007 Armada SE 4WD I know for fact that I have much much less control. It is heavy and thus stops much slower, it turns slower, it accelerates slower, its center of gravity makes it unstable in high speed corners, I could go on and on forever. fatter tires give it less road feel. forever, really.
Anyone who thinks they have more control in a large SUV compared to a sport compact or economy car is dreaming. That's part of the superiority complex that comes with owning one.
Also, if you think little cars "don't go when you hit the gas" Keep this in mind.
a 2005 Dodge Ram HEMI 5.7 Single-cab runs a mid-10 second 1/8th mile. My 2.7 L Hyundai runs a 9.6. In racing, that is an eternity. Even the most powerfull trucks and SUVs are dog slow compared to basic sports cars. The Trail Blazer SS is the only thing that comes close. V10 "viper" Dodges are slow as beans.
If you drive like you say you do, fine, your great, why are you talking? Your stereotyping other people just as much as they do you.
Fivetoze's answer below me tells it like it is, thumbs up =)
erm, i drove a series 2a LWB for 4 years, then i bought a range rover. and in my garage ive a 1962 series 2 SWB. im in a far worse category, these days i drive a volvo estate..
landys, and rangeys werent designed for driving the kids too and from school. yes you can see ahead, and yes you feel in control, and safe, and its an illusion. for years landrovers hve failed the car safety tests, and we love them for their individuality, but they arent safe.
they are ok at 40mph, 60 is pushing it, you dont drive them, you aim tehm in the general direction and hope. and look at all teh accidents where 4x4 climb the central armco, and flip.inherent high speed instability.
tall powerful vehicle going in a straight line, but due to the axle articulaton and body roll, it doesnt like changing direction at 70 or 80mph.. you turn the wheel, nothing apparentlyhappens, you turn the wheel a little more, and suddenly the nearside dips, and you swing out, you spin the wheel back, and always over correct, in final desperation you either release teh wheel, or you straighten it, and the whiplash fromthe 16 inch wheels, axles and diffs, and its goes into fly by wire mode as it does what its designed to do, keep all four wheels turning, and teh armco is little more than a kerbstone.
and ive never felt so unsafe, which is probably why i got fed up of spannering and bought the volvo.
Man + Big 4x4 = Small Co*ck.
girl, do not listen to them, 4x4 are cool and one that runs on LPG is even cooler and with a growing numbers of boy racers it is better safe than sorry. people hate you when you have something you have that they have no access to. ignore them
My aren't we on the defensive? Actually as I don't drive you aren't really greener than me in terms of transport are you? I'm not attacking you, but you seem to have put yourself out there with some very sweeping statements so forgive me but I wonder if we could just examine this a bit more closely.
Lets start by really test your green credentials. Do you belong to a car pool? Would you sign up to car share if someone in your office lived near you, or someone on your street worked somewhere that was en route to your workplace? If you're so green why do you drive at all? How often do you drive when you could have walked or taken a bus? And when you talk about seeing further ahead, why don't you stop and look ahead in terms of the environmental impact of all this traffic on our roads?
And let me ask you about your thoughtfulness as a driver if I may. Would you park your car across someone elses drive because there wasn't any car there or the person you were visiting said they don't have a car? Do you try to avoid huge puddles near bus stops to look out for pedestrians? If you were setting off in your car and saw a neighbour struggling through wind and hail would you pull up and ask if you could give them a lift? And can you tell me what exactly it is about a 4x4 that is really advantageous to you? I'll never understand people who have cars that go from 0-100 in 3 seconds and the such, or people who have off-roaders and live in urban areas. Those high gears and off-road systems must come in so useful plodding through congested streets where you're lucky to get above 20 miles an hour.and before you get all on the defensive with me I'm not saying this is you specifically. I just generally don't get all this the bigger, the brighter, the more souped up, the louder, the more gadgets, the faster etc etc the better kind of mindset of so many drivers.
And finally, if you think you're doing nothing wrong why are you posting questions and sounding off here in such vigourous defence of yourself? If you're happy with what you're doing you shouldn't need to defend yourself to anyone, so why are you putting yourself through this?
can i say one thing before i tell you what i think
i now live in spain & i have too have one as my job involes going up and down mountings & tracks some off whitch are proper off roads.
have you ever been off road?
if so then i understand you need a 4 by 4 if not then you dont
Good for you.stand up for your rights.
People in 4x4's seem to be on some big power trip. They are arrogant , rude and ignorant of the environment. Every day I come across one of these such people - they push you out the road, take up two spaces outside the school and are nomally driven by very small people who can't see over the steering wheel. I hate them.
Thank you so much for bringing this point up. I agree with EVERY word you wrote.
I live in the Highlands of Scotland and NEED my 4x4 as, without one, in Winter here I would be virtually housebound. One of the respondents mentioned 22 mpg - crikey I get 47.9 mpg diesel so that squashes the argument about gas guzzling.
I am only 5'4" so appreciate the higher driving position as I feel safer as I can see the road ahead better and also being built like a tank, I am much safer than silly little Nissan Micras which would collapse like a house of cards in an accident.
If people are arrogant and rude, it is the people who are at fault not their vehicles. See reason for Pete's sake!
Most of your respondents seem to assume that these vehicles are used in towns. If you came up here, you would see that 75% of people drive 4x4s and if you can only afford one vehicle to run, then it has to be a 4x4 even for trips into town. I can get so much in mine, I only go into Inverness to the supermarket and cash'n'carry every 3 weeks or so rather than popping out to local shops in the like of your little Micras etc., using expensive fuel. I drive very price efficiently, only long trips with the vehicle warmed up and therefore not using the extra fuel it takes to warm up a vehicle over and over again.
Basically this anti-4x4 thing is born out of ignorance by city dwellers who pick up on something in the media and then follow it like sheep, anything to inject some interest into their dull, boring, urban lives.
I would never drive anything else and am in the process of purchasing a new Nissan X-Trail to replace my Toyota RAV-4.
you want to drive a chelsea tractor then fine
If the only criteria given to judge someone is the car they drive, and not even the car but a segment of the car market, then you are going to be lumped in with a whole heap of statistical norms that may not apply to you individually but do to the collective group.
SUVs are involved in more accidents than normal cars, whether that's the flip over effect, or heavier weight = longer braking distance, or poor visibility of area around the vehicle, I don't know but facts are facts.
The design of SUV's with a separate ladder frame chassis is inherently unsafe for road users of normal cars, in a side impact the height of the vehicle rides over a cars side impact bars and is much more likely to kill the occupants of a average style car than a side impact involving two conventional cars.
The same goes for pedestrian impact, if you hit (god forbid) a person with the front of a car they are flipped onto the bonnet and may then roll off and survive, with a standard SUV a child is hit full on and an adult in the middle, they most likely will go under the wheels of the SUV, survival rates are significantly lower.
How it is still legal to fit "bull bars" to the front of on road vehicles is a mystery to me.
Well done on being crash free for 5 years, I hope you never have a crash. But when SUV drivers crash they are statistically much more likely to cause death or serious injury.
I think SUV's are the shell suits of the noughties, look horrible, are a health hazard, a passing fad.
I acknowledge you are probably a good driver but what about all the idiot motorcyclists,pedestrians,chil. other cars that may run into you,NO CHANCE, also do you know the techniques for off road driving or in snow its a different skill than driving a normal car,and yes I know all the folk who do actually need to use them and yes I have been driving these tanks on and off road for 35 yrs without an accident,These Chelsea Tractors have no place on normal roads with normal drivers also no place for them in crowded town or city streets,Oh and by the way there are normal cars and mpvs with much better safety ratings than 4x4s.
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