Has this government has gone just too far this time. I have read today?
that most schools are phasing out school assembles that include hymns but not only that they are stopping RE in schools so as not to offend immigrants and Muslims. You may or may not what your children to receive RE, but is it not everyparents choice to choose whether their child does or does not receive it RE. It should not be decided for us by those stupid people in government. This surely PC gone right over the top.
Maybe I got this wrong, but why should we always kowtow.
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We still have RE in our school. We have a religious assembly once a week and try to alternate the faith that we take our stories and morals from - Even though all our pupils are christians. We also still have RE lessons and whilst some kids are greatly opposed to being in them the parents/carers can withdraw them at any time and they can have extra lessons in another subject. I feel it is important for pupils to be aware of other cultures and beliefs if only to try and subdue alot of racism.
Alot of our pupils deal with RE by looking at it as alot of stories that they think are rubbish but they are fascinated that so many millions believe them (their idea not the teachers). This may not be the best way but at least they are learning about other cultures.
I know alot of our pupils were upset that they couldnt display the uk flag during the world cup, even if schools put up all the flags from the other countries.
I don't think RE is being phased out because of Muslims.
It's being phased out because there is no good reason why the nonbelievers among us should pay to have our children indoctrinated with your silly superstitions.
If you want them to have a religious education, put them in Sunday School.
It is PC going over the top - however - I received RE at schools and completely resented the total waste of good educational time that was committed to this.
Schools still do RE but teach about other religions such as Islam. But if we go to their country we have to cover up and follow their customs, once again it is all one way.
In this day and age I think it's more important than ever to have RE in secondary schools. SO LONG as it provided a balanced, informative view of the religions. It should also cover more than just Christianity with a tiny splattering of Islam like I had. People from different faiths should come into the classroom to make it more interesting.
I would only withdraw my children if it taught one faith as "the right one". I hated that at my daughters playschool they were taught the nativity as fact. It's a lovely story but I personally dont want her told that at age 3 :o)
I don't believe primary school children should be taught it. They need all the time they can get to master maths, english etc without getting their head around religion!
They are stopping it because religion has no place in our schools. Everyone pays takes, and Christianity is not the only game in town. Religion is something that should be taught at home, IF it's going to be taught at all. America is schizoid about this issue anyway - the ten commandments can't be put on display at a courthouse because of separation of church and state, but the money can have "In God We Trust" printed on it.
I can tell you that when my kids go to school, religion is not an issue. I grew up in the States, but we live in Canada now, and there is NO religious instruction or religious observance in their schools whatsoever, in any grade. We like it that way. This is because it is multicultural, we have kids whose families come from a variety of backgrounds, and nobody wants religion stepping on anyone's toes.
I think its ridiculous, after all, this is a Christian country. Anyway, when I was at school, RE covered all religions, I remember learning about other faiths and found it interesting. Keep RE on the curriculum, but touch on all religions, not just Christianity.
schools should not teach religion..it is my job as a parent.not the schools
It's impossible for anthing productive to get done in this country and is going to remain that way as long as we've got the iron fist of George Bush pushing his agenda and Hitleristic beliefs on us and the rest of the world!
My son has had religious education during his time in senior school and they taught in depth about a broad spectrum of religions which I think is the best way to go about it. The children can then make up their own minds about it. As long as they are not told that one is right and another wrong then I don't have a problem with it.
the world has gone mad- I heard the other day that schools can't give sweets as rewards anymore as they encourage children to take sweets off strangers.. Learning about other people's beliefs is an important part of education and is what makes us balanced, caring people- many employers now look for a good grade in religious education to show that the employee has an understanding of different beliefs in our ever expanding world. I did an A-level in RE and can honestly say it was of the most interesting and thought provoking subjects I have ever studied. It saddens me to think that ignorance is now being encouraged in schools.
I'm with you on that Fall, but no one will take you seriously with that hat
This is exactly the reason the private schools are flourishing and public schools are losing out. The liberals and nonbelievers have put themselves in a spot where they can't tell what is a true "separation of church and state" situation, and they are overcompensating by thinking every school activity must be devoid of any kind of religious overtone. We shouldn't alway bow to thier will, but rather the silent majority needs to speak for what the true constiuents of the state want.
PC has always gone right over the top for me.
But religion, at present is a very sensitive issue just now. I hated RE in school but i don't believe it should be phased out. However with everyone walking on eggshells, maybe they shouldn't have brought this up just now.
As much as I am an atheist, I think religious studies are usefull in schools because they can help kids explore morality and different cultures.
I remember quite enjoying school assemblies and singing hymns (well, usually playing harmonica in the little band). And, of course, we all replaced the words - christ the lord became christ I'm bored, etc. So that was a bit of fun as well.
With regard to offending muslims - I think that's a load of crap. How could a muslim be offended at someone singing a hymn in praise of God? I suspect they wouldn't. This sort of policy, if it's true, is the sort of thing that patronises muslems and makes non-muslems bloody angry.
The "do-gooders" who implement this sort of thing ought to remember that saying - the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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Maybe I got this wrong, but why should we always kowtow.
Answers:
We still have RE in our school. We have a religious assembly once a week and try to alternate the faith that we take our stories and morals from - Even though all our pupils are christians. We also still have RE lessons and whilst some kids are greatly opposed to being in them the parents/carers can withdraw them at any time and they can have extra lessons in another subject. I feel it is important for pupils to be aware of other cultures and beliefs if only to try and subdue alot of racism.
Alot of our pupils deal with RE by looking at it as alot of stories that they think are rubbish but they are fascinated that so many millions believe them (their idea not the teachers). This may not be the best way but at least they are learning about other cultures.
I know alot of our pupils were upset that they couldnt display the uk flag during the world cup, even if schools put up all the flags from the other countries.
I don't think RE is being phased out because of Muslims.
It's being phased out because there is no good reason why the nonbelievers among us should pay to have our children indoctrinated with your silly superstitions.
If you want them to have a religious education, put them in Sunday School.
It is PC going over the top - however - I received RE at schools and completely resented the total waste of good educational time that was committed to this.
Schools still do RE but teach about other religions such as Islam. But if we go to their country we have to cover up and follow their customs, once again it is all one way.
In this day and age I think it's more important than ever to have RE in secondary schools. SO LONG as it provided a balanced, informative view of the religions. It should also cover more than just Christianity with a tiny splattering of Islam like I had. People from different faiths should come into the classroom to make it more interesting.
I would only withdraw my children if it taught one faith as "the right one". I hated that at my daughters playschool they were taught the nativity as fact. It's a lovely story but I personally dont want her told that at age 3 :o)
I don't believe primary school children should be taught it. They need all the time they can get to master maths, english etc without getting their head around religion!
They are stopping it because religion has no place in our schools. Everyone pays takes, and Christianity is not the only game in town. Religion is something that should be taught at home, IF it's going to be taught at all. America is schizoid about this issue anyway - the ten commandments can't be put on display at a courthouse because of separation of church and state, but the money can have "In God We Trust" printed on it.
I can tell you that when my kids go to school, religion is not an issue. I grew up in the States, but we live in Canada now, and there is NO religious instruction or religious observance in their schools whatsoever, in any grade. We like it that way. This is because it is multicultural, we have kids whose families come from a variety of backgrounds, and nobody wants religion stepping on anyone's toes.
I think its ridiculous, after all, this is a Christian country. Anyway, when I was at school, RE covered all religions, I remember learning about other faiths and found it interesting. Keep RE on the curriculum, but touch on all religions, not just Christianity.
schools should not teach religion..it is my job as a parent.not the schools
It's impossible for anthing productive to get done in this country and is going to remain that way as long as we've got the iron fist of George Bush pushing his agenda and Hitleristic beliefs on us and the rest of the world!
My son has had religious education during his time in senior school and they taught in depth about a broad spectrum of religions which I think is the best way to go about it. The children can then make up their own minds about it. As long as they are not told that one is right and another wrong then I don't have a problem with it.
the world has gone mad- I heard the other day that schools can't give sweets as rewards anymore as they encourage children to take sweets off strangers.. Learning about other people's beliefs is an important part of education and is what makes us balanced, caring people- many employers now look for a good grade in religious education to show that the employee has an understanding of different beliefs in our ever expanding world. I did an A-level in RE and can honestly say it was of the most interesting and thought provoking subjects I have ever studied. It saddens me to think that ignorance is now being encouraged in schools.
I'm with you on that Fall, but no one will take you seriously with that hat
This is exactly the reason the private schools are flourishing and public schools are losing out. The liberals and nonbelievers have put themselves in a spot where they can't tell what is a true "separation of church and state" situation, and they are overcompensating by thinking every school activity must be devoid of any kind of religious overtone. We shouldn't alway bow to thier will, but rather the silent majority needs to speak for what the true constiuents of the state want.
PC has always gone right over the top for me.
But religion, at present is a very sensitive issue just now. I hated RE in school but i don't believe it should be phased out. However with everyone walking on eggshells, maybe they shouldn't have brought this up just now.
As much as I am an atheist, I think religious studies are usefull in schools because they can help kids explore morality and different cultures.
I remember quite enjoying school assemblies and singing hymns (well, usually playing harmonica in the little band). And, of course, we all replaced the words - christ the lord became christ I'm bored, etc. So that was a bit of fun as well.
With regard to offending muslims - I think that's a load of crap. How could a muslim be offended at someone singing a hymn in praise of God? I suspect they wouldn't. This sort of policy, if it's true, is the sort of thing that patronises muslems and makes non-muslems bloody angry.
The "do-gooders" who implement this sort of thing ought to remember that saying - the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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