If the water pipes leading to your house are lead,can you ask water board to change them free of charge?
I am living on a low income. I qualify for a warm front grant to get a boiler and heating improved in my home I was told that this can not go ahead because the water pressure is to low,the original old lead pipes carring my water supply need replacing. i can not afford to pay a plumber to do this,is the water board obliged to do this.
Answers:
the old lead pipe was used for sewage drains. More than likely, they are galvanized if they are incoming water supply lines. They tend to corrode on the inside of the line. PVC lines are not very expensive,and will not corrode. They are also easy to install. If you have a friend that could replace them for you, It would be the cheapest and easiest way to go. But if I were you, I'd check it out to see if you can get them replaced by the grant since it is essential to the boiler heating unit. Good luck.
Yes. Health and safety. Report them to the council otherwise.
They are only responsible for replacing if broken or a hazard to your health.
If they are lead pipes, then yes, the water board should change them.
the waterboard are only responsible for the supply to your house any interanal piping is your responsibility if you contact your local council im sure there are grants available for this type of work i hope this helps
they will replace , you will have to pay for the groundworks
I think the water are required to change them, due to Health & Safety. But, only upto your drive / front of your house.
You have to pay for it to connected into your home from there..
Plz confirm this though...
In the USA, every place I've ever lived or owned a home, the County or city is/was only responsible for plumbing and sewage draining, at the street and up to any easements they have on your property.
You don't say if you rent or own, but I'd certasinly ask that grant org about info on having plumbing replaced, or if you rent, ask the lanlord/owner. Hopefully you aren't drinking or using the water.
Are you even certain the plumbing is lead and not galvanized steel or cast iron?
Rev. Steven
I would say no, that as a homeowner, if you own the land and
the home, you are responsible for home maintenance.
I am also a homeowner and have found out in my many years
of home ownership, that I must maintain and fix and repair anything attached to my home.
Since my pipes are not on a public ease way, then it is my responsibility to fix them.
I also found out that anything else like the trees, sewage, electricity, phone and cable lines all are my responsibility.
Nothing on earth is free.
I am disabled and out of work so as you can see I am very irritated that they expect me to fix anything.
It's doubtful they're lead. Maybe soldered copper.
Common law, which most state and local laws are derived, usually put the responsibility on either side of the property line. This suggests that the lines under your property are your responsibility.
However, the lead pipe situation may change things. (because of the health hazzards) Best advice you can get, here, is to check your local and state ordinances. No one. here, can help you.
yes you may ask them but you and I both know how they are. but try your luck see what happens they may surprise you and do you request
Depends where the pipes are. If they're between the water meter and your faucet, you demand the city pay for it.
Something about your post isn't quite making sense?
A boiler is a closed loop. It heats water or water+antifreeze and pumps the warm water through radiators to heat the rooms. It has nothing to do with your city water.
Maybe you mean water heater? But this also doesn't require much water pressure. As long as it refills as fast as it drains, you're fine.
You have not hired a plumber, but you're sure the supply lines are lead. How do you know that? And why are you still willingly drinking lead-tainted water? In most cases the lead was from the lead solder used to join iron/galv metal pipes. It's been a looooong time since people used solid lead in pipes. If these were indeed solid lead pipes in the street, your city should've torn them out in the 70s when lead /leadpaint/ leadpipes were banned.
Usually you are responsible for the pipes from the street to your house and meter. You can ask, but they are not likely responsible.
if you have changed your pipes inside from lead then yes, you can
It is not you place to be charged for it!
I presume that these pipes do not belong to the city so they
would belong to the property owner..
Therefore it is up to the property owner to replace them.
I could be wrong and can't hurt to ask the city/water department to replace them at their cost.
No, you have to pay a plumber to put a new plastic pipe from the road into your house. However the water board will connect the new pipe free of charge. I now see you are on a low income. You could ask the water board just in case. Also unless your water pressure is extremely low, it should not stop you having a boiler. Tell them you want an " ordinary 2 boiler, not a Combi
the city is only liable to change the pipes if they are not on your side of the property line - they will tell you that if it is on your side of the property line it is your problem. this is another way the city or county takes some more of your money
Do u own the house? If not then i would think that they would.. BUt you know that nothing is free..
Do you own your home I expect you do or you would not be mentioning the grant. At any rate, Homes built before 1986 are more likely to have lead pipes, if you have a home older than that (I suspect so) then you may have those pipes. Corrosion is what makes them most dangerous. Depending on the type of water that has been running through, there can be some or lots of corrosion. You would not easily know which. You can have your water tested. See below for info:
EPA Safe Drinking Water Hotline: 1-800-426-4791
National Lead Information Center: 1-800-424-LEAD
www.epa.gov/lead3
If you were a renter you could read about he lead and copper rule, probably get the landlord to replace.
Depending upon where you live, the lead test may be free, in some places it could be up to $50.00.
Perhaps you can solve your low pressure problem and lead issue by getting a Grant to replace those bad pipes. Call your local water district first. Ask. Then call your local health department. Ask.
Thing to know, how far are you away from the main? Is it considered city water? Hopefully the distance is short so it would be a short job/line. Also contact big local churches like Lutheran and Catholic Community Services, the often assist low income at risk folks.
Gee, that should keep you busy for a while.
Good luck!!
Are you in the United States?
skyeblue- "They are only responsible for replacing if broken or a hazard to your health."
BWAHAHAHAH! Think for a second. LEAD PIPES? Like. poison?
And by the way, if they don't pay for it, you can most likely get a lawsuit against them. Which would be fun. :)
ummm you'd have to ask. there are laws but. you know how bureaucracy can be.
call the city hall or board of health get information about your rights and restrictions on permits, city code. property and other things you should know about this.
also ask about the sewage system to.. just in case.
The home owner is responsible for all pipes from the water meter to the house and within the house. You can replace with 3/4" soft copper or 3/4" hard copper, but it is your responsibility. I certainly would not mess around with lead pipe..if you disturb it, it will release lead into the water.not a good thing. Good luck
I would assume a person is responsible for the pipes from the water meter to the House. The Water Board responsible before and including the meter. Same with Gas and Electric, the owner responsible after the meter. If, you qualify for a Grant, it may cover this additional expense. I not really sure.
Call your health department.
Not in my town. That is what happened to us. There was a leak. And they would not fix it, The city REQUIRES that you put a new line in. At your own cost. They did not even cut us a break on the water bill. I also had to hire a plumber to find out what was going on. The water department made it very clear. that it was our responsibility. It ended up costing about 2,000 dollars. So best of luck. This was just 2 months ago.
no you cant anythink on your side . it your responspabality to change if it was on the other side of the meater it would be there responsability to change but anything on your side is your responsabality to change yourself. << ref>> worked for a water company for a. year. ?
It is wonderful that you qualify, though I lament the reason.
As a general rule, the property owner is responsible for the line from the street to the home.
Since this is beyond your income, you might try asking:
a) your/a church for help esp youth group
b) a local service group such as veterans/Lions/grange
c) the provider of the grant for suggestions
d) The local plumber's union.
God's speed.
s
no, you are responsible for the water pipe going to your house from the meter, the water department is responsible from the other side of the meter.
The water board are only responsible for the pipes in the road, as soon as it enters your property you are responsible. Therefore it is extremely likely you would have to foot the bill.
However, if you are on income support then you local JC+ or Civic Centre should be able to direct you to a fund that allows you a grant to help fund the works. Additionally, those who complain the most often get the most, I would suggest letters to the water board crying that you can't afford to get your pipes replaced and you can taste lead in the water.
Just hope that this happens sooner rather than later for you. Good luck. x
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the old lead pipe was used for sewage drains. More than likely, they are galvanized if they are incoming water supply lines. They tend to corrode on the inside of the line. PVC lines are not very expensive,and will not corrode. They are also easy to install. If you have a friend that could replace them for you, It would be the cheapest and easiest way to go. But if I were you, I'd check it out to see if you can get them replaced by the grant since it is essential to the boiler heating unit. Good luck.
Yes. Health and safety. Report them to the council otherwise.
They are only responsible for replacing if broken or a hazard to your health.
If they are lead pipes, then yes, the water board should change them.
the waterboard are only responsible for the supply to your house any interanal piping is your responsibility if you contact your local council im sure there are grants available for this type of work i hope this helps
they will replace , you will have to pay for the groundworks
I think the water are required to change them, due to Health & Safety. But, only upto your drive / front of your house.
You have to pay for it to connected into your home from there..
Plz confirm this though...
In the USA, every place I've ever lived or owned a home, the County or city is/was only responsible for plumbing and sewage draining, at the street and up to any easements they have on your property.
You don't say if you rent or own, but I'd certasinly ask that grant org about info on having plumbing replaced, or if you rent, ask the lanlord/owner. Hopefully you aren't drinking or using the water.
Are you even certain the plumbing is lead and not galvanized steel or cast iron?
Rev. Steven
I would say no, that as a homeowner, if you own the land and
the home, you are responsible for home maintenance.
I am also a homeowner and have found out in my many years
of home ownership, that I must maintain and fix and repair anything attached to my home.
Since my pipes are not on a public ease way, then it is my responsibility to fix them.
I also found out that anything else like the trees, sewage, electricity, phone and cable lines all are my responsibility.
Nothing on earth is free.
I am disabled and out of work so as you can see I am very irritated that they expect me to fix anything.
It's doubtful they're lead. Maybe soldered copper.
Common law, which most state and local laws are derived, usually put the responsibility on either side of the property line. This suggests that the lines under your property are your responsibility.
However, the lead pipe situation may change things. (because of the health hazzards) Best advice you can get, here, is to check your local and state ordinances. No one. here, can help you.
yes you may ask them but you and I both know how they are. but try your luck see what happens they may surprise you and do you request
Depends where the pipes are. If they're between the water meter and your faucet, you demand the city pay for it.
Something about your post isn't quite making sense?
A boiler is a closed loop. It heats water or water+antifreeze and pumps the warm water through radiators to heat the rooms. It has nothing to do with your city water.
Maybe you mean water heater? But this also doesn't require much water pressure. As long as it refills as fast as it drains, you're fine.
You have not hired a plumber, but you're sure the supply lines are lead. How do you know that? And why are you still willingly drinking lead-tainted water? In most cases the lead was from the lead solder used to join iron/galv metal pipes. It's been a looooong time since people used solid lead in pipes. If these were indeed solid lead pipes in the street, your city should've torn them out in the 70s when lead /leadpaint/ leadpipes were banned.
Usually you are responsible for the pipes from the street to your house and meter. You can ask, but they are not likely responsible.
if you have changed your pipes inside from lead then yes, you can
It is not you place to be charged for it!
I presume that these pipes do not belong to the city so they
would belong to the property owner..
Therefore it is up to the property owner to replace them.
I could be wrong and can't hurt to ask the city/water department to replace them at their cost.
No, you have to pay a plumber to put a new plastic pipe from the road into your house. However the water board will connect the new pipe free of charge. I now see you are on a low income. You could ask the water board just in case. Also unless your water pressure is extremely low, it should not stop you having a boiler. Tell them you want an " ordinary 2 boiler, not a Combi
the city is only liable to change the pipes if they are not on your side of the property line - they will tell you that if it is on your side of the property line it is your problem. this is another way the city or county takes some more of your money
Do u own the house? If not then i would think that they would.. BUt you know that nothing is free..
Do you own your home I expect you do or you would not be mentioning the grant. At any rate, Homes built before 1986 are more likely to have lead pipes, if you have a home older than that (I suspect so) then you may have those pipes. Corrosion is what makes them most dangerous. Depending on the type of water that has been running through, there can be some or lots of corrosion. You would not easily know which. You can have your water tested. See below for info:
EPA Safe Drinking Water Hotline: 1-800-426-4791
National Lead Information Center: 1-800-424-LEAD
www.epa.gov/lead3
If you were a renter you could read about he lead and copper rule, probably get the landlord to replace.
Depending upon where you live, the lead test may be free, in some places it could be up to $50.00.
Perhaps you can solve your low pressure problem and lead issue by getting a Grant to replace those bad pipes. Call your local water district first. Ask. Then call your local health department. Ask.
Thing to know, how far are you away from the main? Is it considered city water? Hopefully the distance is short so it would be a short job/line. Also contact big local churches like Lutheran and Catholic Community Services, the often assist low income at risk folks.
Gee, that should keep you busy for a while.
Good luck!!
Are you in the United States?
skyeblue- "They are only responsible for replacing if broken or a hazard to your health."
BWAHAHAHAH! Think for a second. LEAD PIPES? Like. poison?
And by the way, if they don't pay for it, you can most likely get a lawsuit against them. Which would be fun. :)
ummm you'd have to ask. there are laws but. you know how bureaucracy can be.
call the city hall or board of health get information about your rights and restrictions on permits, city code. property and other things you should know about this.
also ask about the sewage system to.. just in case.
The home owner is responsible for all pipes from the water meter to the house and within the house. You can replace with 3/4" soft copper or 3/4" hard copper, but it is your responsibility. I certainly would not mess around with lead pipe..if you disturb it, it will release lead into the water.not a good thing. Good luck
I would assume a person is responsible for the pipes from the water meter to the House. The Water Board responsible before and including the meter. Same with Gas and Electric, the owner responsible after the meter. If, you qualify for a Grant, it may cover this additional expense. I not really sure.
Call your health department.
Not in my town. That is what happened to us. There was a leak. And they would not fix it, The city REQUIRES that you put a new line in. At your own cost. They did not even cut us a break on the water bill. I also had to hire a plumber to find out what was going on. The water department made it very clear. that it was our responsibility. It ended up costing about 2,000 dollars. So best of luck. This was just 2 months ago.
no you cant anythink on your side . it your responspabality to change if it was on the other side of the meater it would be there responsability to change but anything on your side is your responsabality to change yourself. << ref>> worked for a water company for a. year. ?
It is wonderful that you qualify, though I lament the reason.
As a general rule, the property owner is responsible for the line from the street to the home.
Since this is beyond your income, you might try asking:
a) your/a church for help esp youth group
b) a local service group such as veterans/Lions/grange
c) the provider of the grant for suggestions
d) The local plumber's union.
God's speed.
s
no, you are responsible for the water pipe going to your house from the meter, the water department is responsible from the other side of the meter.
The water board are only responsible for the pipes in the road, as soon as it enters your property you are responsible. Therefore it is extremely likely you would have to foot the bill.
However, if you are on income support then you local JC+ or Civic Centre should be able to direct you to a fund that allows you a grant to help fund the works. Additionally, those who complain the most often get the most, I would suggest letters to the water board crying that you can't afford to get your pipes replaced and you can taste lead in the water.
Just hope that this happens sooner rather than later for you. Good luck. x
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