I have a 4yr old Jack Russel (m) & have just brought home 10wk (f)Golden Retriever. Its not going well! Help!
Things are calm for 5 mins then the JR growls at the GR who puts up with it for a while then growls back. Then all Hell breaks loose & I have to put them in separate rooms. Has anyone got any advice please?!
Answers:
is your JR neutered? It is highly unusual for an older dog to attack a puppy since instinctively the puppy has a smell about it which is a bite inhibitor. At the moment your JR is dominant as he is the oldest. But as time goes on, the retriever will be dominant since it is female and will be bigger. Don't keep seperating them as things won't get any better. If you would like to email me I may be able to talk you through things.
You can pay the JR more attention now but as the retriver grows up, she will be dominant since b1tches are always dominant over dogs. Your JR will recognise this and whatever you do, do not treat them as equals. This is how fights start as the naturally dominant one keeps having to reinforce it's natural instinctive position.
I have 8 dogs, all ages, both sexes, most neutered some not. Not one of them will fight. Firstly because I am a very strong minded dominant person (alpha bltch) and secondly because I understand and respect pack heirachy. Unilke human children, subservient dogs are actually happy in their position because they are the ones who have no responsibility and will be protected and in the wild, fed, by the ones higher up in pack dominance.
Pack heirachy is very complicated, very interesting and will help keep the peace. However, heirachy will not stay the same, as dogs mature, get bigger, grow older, heirachy can change.I would do some reading about this subject and put it into practice. There are not many people with a pack of 8 dogs, who can empty a sack of raw beef bones in the yard and not have dogs fighting over them. I can!
The jack Russel is most probably growling because it feels that the new retriever is taking away it's affection. It should get better but they need to get used to each other.
One thing for definite though any time you stroke the retriever make sure you stroke the JR. The JR needs to know the GR is not a threat but an equal. Hope it sorts itself soon for you.
i think you are asking for problems having a dog and a b***** together when the famale is in season you will have fun keeping them away from each other
I think you need to get them to a dog shrink asap. I have 2 Jack Russells (sisters from the same litter). they are 2 years old now & they can't stand the sight of each other. Skin, hair 7 blood flies if they get close enough. we have to keep them apart at all times.
The vet said if they were different sexes there would be a chance that it would be okay. You have to nip it in the bud right now or it will only get worse. They need to know that you are the lead/alpha dog in the pack.
Are they both males? There will probably be some jealously..esp on the older dogs part..takes time to get used to a new animal in the house. It should get better w/ time. Oops ok male and female..still same answer..
Are they both males? This can cause tension (dominance).
Give them a week or maybe two and I'm sure they will be inseparable.
Over the years I've always had female labradors. Around the age of 6 I buy a pup and introduce them. Although 2 females will get along it usually takes a week for them to be accepted as 'one of the family'.
Stick with it, I'm sure they will be fine after a while.
You're doing well but just introduce them slowly as Jack Russells are very territorial. I don't want to scare you I had a Jack Russell who ate a Lurcher pup cos it didn't take to it (broke my heart) so do as you're doing and keep them separate unless you're with them. They may bond eventually if you show the Jack Russell he's not left out and give him plenty of fuss. The pup needs a lot of attention too so it's hard work but can be done if done right. Good luck and all the best :-)
Your JR is male and I'm assuming - although you haven't said - but has been on his own for 4yrs with you're undivided attention.
You have just tipped his life upside down without realising it! All of a sudden there is someone else to share you affection, and at 10 weeks old will be getting a lot more attention due to house training, obedience, etc.
Also, this GR is going to get alot bigger and the JR is going to feel intimidated. So is going to make it know from the start that he's the boss - even though he's small he will want to get across he's the gaffa!! JR's have a tendency to be bossy around other dogs. While GR's like labradors are socialites that's why the GR is putting up with the growling for so long before kicking off too.
All I can suggest is if you want to keep them both - which I'm assuming you do - is to take it one step at a time and give then short times together and as soon as the aggression or growling starts seperate them. Don't make a "meal" of the seperating though as the JR may see this as the only time it's getting some attention from you (albeit bad attention) is when he's doing this.
STEP - BY - STEP, a little at a time.
Alternatively seek the advice of a dog trainer or behaviourist.
It's early days yet and there is a big age difference between the two. The Golden Retriever is a bouncy pup just now and the Jack Russel can't be bothered with all that. Also the Jack Russel will be letting her know it's his house and he's the boss. Don't worry it will settle down and they will fit in to their roles. The advantage is they are male and female and the female will soon realise that the male is not going to put up with her puppy nonsense. Just watch them for a while and let them work it out, obviously don't let a fight happen, be stern with them when you need to. I had this problem with my dog when she was a pup. I would take her to my mum's who has a 10 yr old dog, my mum's dog gave her a small nip to tell her to back off and after that there was no problems. It is early days and your pup is still settling in to her new life but I am sure it will work out fine. Keep them apart when you are not there though.
get the jr nuetered. and the gr that way neither will dominate. if you feel the gr can stand up or itself leave them to it they are sorting out their roles (dominant/submissive). they will get on. feed the jr first and give same attention to both.
have you ever heard of "the dog whisperer" on the national geographic channel? if not go google this name ceasar milan. you can find videos on this issue. he is a big help with me. good luck.
I think born2survive had it in a nutshell, just show them both equal affection and you should have no problem.
It can take a couple of weeks for things to settle down when you introduce a new dog.
I had an elderly b**ch when I got a new pup and my b**ch just didn't take to the pup at all although the pup was desperate to play with the old dog.
I kept them separate for a while by providing 'safe' places that my old dog could get to but the pup couldn't. I absolutely did not allow the pup to harass the other dog which meant that I had to spend a lot of time with the pup to keep it amused.
The old dog got extra attention as well and was being taken out on her own because the pup was too young.
Things got better when I was able to take the pup out with the older one but, in my case, it took about six weeks before my old one acknowledged that the pup was here to stay.
I had to go through the whole thing again when I got other young pups as the older my b**ch got the less tolerant she became.
However she came round to all of them eventually but I certainly would never have allowed things to get to a state where 'all Hell breaks loose'!
If you allow the Goldie to irritate your Jack Russell he might never get to a stage where he will tolerate her and you definitely want to avoid any situation where a pup of ten weeks has to start defending itself against an older dog!
I realise that your Jack Russell is only four years old but it can be very difficult for a dog of any age to cope with a puppy. You should be encouraging the puppy to interact with you rather than the other dog and giving your Jack Russell his own space and plenty of attention as well.
It makes no difference that they are male and female. I have a male and three females and they all get on fine and I'm sure yours will if you don't let things get so heated.
P.S. I've just been having a look at a couple of your answers - Jenny S is wrong. There is no way a 10 week old pup can 'take care of itself' against a 4 year old dog. Your Jack Russell is capable of killing your puppy. You would also be encouraging aggression in your pup allowing it to fight at such an early age.
A couple of people have mentioned dominance and submission - this has nothing to do with the situation. Your Jack Russell is probably irritated by the attention of the pup and hence the growling. The pup is too young and silly to leave him alone and back off and so you get problems.
Jack Russells are veeeery territorial dogs. So, this new dog is in his territory, so he's trying establish dominance over her. What you need to do is re-introduce them in a non-claimed environment.like up the street, or someplace where neither dogs are very familiar. Dogs meet eachother with their nose. The first thing dogs should do when meeting other dogs is sniff their butts to learn eachother's scent. Since the JR starts the aggression usually, you should let the GR sniff the JR first, then vice versa. Hold the one being sniffed so they don't have a choice but to let the other sniff them. Dogs travel in packs. So, to help them bond with eachother, try and take them on a walk together. Make sure YOU are leading the walk or else, they will be battling for pack leader position the whole time. Then, walk them back into your home together. That way, the JR will have gotten used to the GR, so when you walk them into the house together, the JR will be welcoming the GR
Wow thats a plucky little Golden Retriever you have there!
Ideally, you should let the older dog do what he wants to put the puppy in his place. Its far better that your JR teaches him his doggy manners rather than the local thug in the park and it sounds as if this GR needs some doggy manners!
Growling, snarling, snapping and pushing with shoulders are all ok doggy threats and warnings - its only when teeth are used or the snapping actually is biting (dogs who snap miss on purpose trust me!) and you think one will harm the other that you need to intervene. The only way to stop aggressive behaviour between dogs is to seperate them but I suspect that this is not real aggression and that given time and space, they will both settle down. Don't give either dog more attention and don't let your JR get the upper hand over you by demanding treats or games etc as this will worsen his short temper with the pup.
Finally, pups are notorious play actors. If your JR snaps at him because he is being frankly rude in dog world, it is like that the pup will make a huge amount of noise and wimper and limp etc etc when he hasn't even been touched. Don't fall for it. Just call your JR away and give him a treat for obeying you. This will defuse the situation.
It may take several weeks for them to settle but they will eventually, just be patient and don't think that the gorgeous little GR pup is all innocent!
Keep them separate but so they can see/smell each other (possibly with a crate or baby gate) but can't get to each other, until they get used to the other one being around. Some fighting will be inevitable as they will each try to establish dominance. This will sort itself out with time, but if they are really bad, separate whenever you can't supervise.
Good luck!
JR is JEALOUS of the new puppy. Do NOT allow him to do that.
Check out the Dog Whisperer on National Geographic TV
The Dog Whisperer is awesome and has a way with animals. Be calm, assertive and stick to the rules you set. You are the pack leader not the JR.
They are getting used to each other the jr feeling that the gr is taking it spot in the house break them together gentle and it will sort it self out good luck
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Answers:
is your JR neutered? It is highly unusual for an older dog to attack a puppy since instinctively the puppy has a smell about it which is a bite inhibitor. At the moment your JR is dominant as he is the oldest. But as time goes on, the retriever will be dominant since it is female and will be bigger. Don't keep seperating them as things won't get any better. If you would like to email me I may be able to talk you through things.
You can pay the JR more attention now but as the retriver grows up, she will be dominant since b1tches are always dominant over dogs. Your JR will recognise this and whatever you do, do not treat them as equals. This is how fights start as the naturally dominant one keeps having to reinforce it's natural instinctive position.
I have 8 dogs, all ages, both sexes, most neutered some not. Not one of them will fight. Firstly because I am a very strong minded dominant person (alpha bltch) and secondly because I understand and respect pack heirachy. Unilke human children, subservient dogs are actually happy in their position because they are the ones who have no responsibility and will be protected and in the wild, fed, by the ones higher up in pack dominance.
Pack heirachy is very complicated, very interesting and will help keep the peace. However, heirachy will not stay the same, as dogs mature, get bigger, grow older, heirachy can change.I would do some reading about this subject and put it into practice. There are not many people with a pack of 8 dogs, who can empty a sack of raw beef bones in the yard and not have dogs fighting over them. I can!
The jack Russel is most probably growling because it feels that the new retriever is taking away it's affection. It should get better but they need to get used to each other.
One thing for definite though any time you stroke the retriever make sure you stroke the JR. The JR needs to know the GR is not a threat but an equal. Hope it sorts itself soon for you.
i think you are asking for problems having a dog and a b***** together when the famale is in season you will have fun keeping them away from each other
I think you need to get them to a dog shrink asap. I have 2 Jack Russells (sisters from the same litter). they are 2 years old now & they can't stand the sight of each other. Skin, hair 7 blood flies if they get close enough. we have to keep them apart at all times.
The vet said if they were different sexes there would be a chance that it would be okay. You have to nip it in the bud right now or it will only get worse. They need to know that you are the lead/alpha dog in the pack.
Are they both males? There will probably be some jealously..esp on the older dogs part..takes time to get used to a new animal in the house. It should get better w/ time. Oops ok male and female..still same answer..
Are they both males? This can cause tension (dominance).
Give them a week or maybe two and I'm sure they will be inseparable.
Over the years I've always had female labradors. Around the age of 6 I buy a pup and introduce them. Although 2 females will get along it usually takes a week for them to be accepted as 'one of the family'.
Stick with it, I'm sure they will be fine after a while.
You're doing well but just introduce them slowly as Jack Russells are very territorial. I don't want to scare you I had a Jack Russell who ate a Lurcher pup cos it didn't take to it (broke my heart) so do as you're doing and keep them separate unless you're with them. They may bond eventually if you show the Jack Russell he's not left out and give him plenty of fuss. The pup needs a lot of attention too so it's hard work but can be done if done right. Good luck and all the best :-)
Your JR is male and I'm assuming - although you haven't said - but has been on his own for 4yrs with you're undivided attention.
You have just tipped his life upside down without realising it! All of a sudden there is someone else to share you affection, and at 10 weeks old will be getting a lot more attention due to house training, obedience, etc.
Also, this GR is going to get alot bigger and the JR is going to feel intimidated. So is going to make it know from the start that he's the boss - even though he's small he will want to get across he's the gaffa!! JR's have a tendency to be bossy around other dogs. While GR's like labradors are socialites that's why the GR is putting up with the growling for so long before kicking off too.
All I can suggest is if you want to keep them both - which I'm assuming you do - is to take it one step at a time and give then short times together and as soon as the aggression or growling starts seperate them. Don't make a "meal" of the seperating though as the JR may see this as the only time it's getting some attention from you (albeit bad attention) is when he's doing this.
STEP - BY - STEP, a little at a time.
Alternatively seek the advice of a dog trainer or behaviourist.
It's early days yet and there is a big age difference between the two. The Golden Retriever is a bouncy pup just now and the Jack Russel can't be bothered with all that. Also the Jack Russel will be letting her know it's his house and he's the boss. Don't worry it will settle down and they will fit in to their roles. The advantage is they are male and female and the female will soon realise that the male is not going to put up with her puppy nonsense. Just watch them for a while and let them work it out, obviously don't let a fight happen, be stern with them when you need to. I had this problem with my dog when she was a pup. I would take her to my mum's who has a 10 yr old dog, my mum's dog gave her a small nip to tell her to back off and after that there was no problems. It is early days and your pup is still settling in to her new life but I am sure it will work out fine. Keep them apart when you are not there though.
get the jr nuetered. and the gr that way neither will dominate. if you feel the gr can stand up or itself leave them to it they are sorting out their roles (dominant/submissive). they will get on. feed the jr first and give same attention to both.
have you ever heard of "the dog whisperer" on the national geographic channel? if not go google this name ceasar milan. you can find videos on this issue. he is a big help with me. good luck.
I think born2survive had it in a nutshell, just show them both equal affection and you should have no problem.
It can take a couple of weeks for things to settle down when you introduce a new dog.
I had an elderly b**ch when I got a new pup and my b**ch just didn't take to the pup at all although the pup was desperate to play with the old dog.
I kept them separate for a while by providing 'safe' places that my old dog could get to but the pup couldn't. I absolutely did not allow the pup to harass the other dog which meant that I had to spend a lot of time with the pup to keep it amused.
The old dog got extra attention as well and was being taken out on her own because the pup was too young.
Things got better when I was able to take the pup out with the older one but, in my case, it took about six weeks before my old one acknowledged that the pup was here to stay.
I had to go through the whole thing again when I got other young pups as the older my b**ch got the less tolerant she became.
However she came round to all of them eventually but I certainly would never have allowed things to get to a state where 'all Hell breaks loose'!
If you allow the Goldie to irritate your Jack Russell he might never get to a stage where he will tolerate her and you definitely want to avoid any situation where a pup of ten weeks has to start defending itself against an older dog!
I realise that your Jack Russell is only four years old but it can be very difficult for a dog of any age to cope with a puppy. You should be encouraging the puppy to interact with you rather than the other dog and giving your Jack Russell his own space and plenty of attention as well.
It makes no difference that they are male and female. I have a male and three females and they all get on fine and I'm sure yours will if you don't let things get so heated.
P.S. I've just been having a look at a couple of your answers - Jenny S is wrong. There is no way a 10 week old pup can 'take care of itself' against a 4 year old dog. Your Jack Russell is capable of killing your puppy. You would also be encouraging aggression in your pup allowing it to fight at such an early age.
A couple of people have mentioned dominance and submission - this has nothing to do with the situation. Your Jack Russell is probably irritated by the attention of the pup and hence the growling. The pup is too young and silly to leave him alone and back off and so you get problems.
Jack Russells are veeeery territorial dogs. So, this new dog is in his territory, so he's trying establish dominance over her. What you need to do is re-introduce them in a non-claimed environment.like up the street, or someplace where neither dogs are very familiar. Dogs meet eachother with their nose. The first thing dogs should do when meeting other dogs is sniff their butts to learn eachother's scent. Since the JR starts the aggression usually, you should let the GR sniff the JR first, then vice versa. Hold the one being sniffed so they don't have a choice but to let the other sniff them. Dogs travel in packs. So, to help them bond with eachother, try and take them on a walk together. Make sure YOU are leading the walk or else, they will be battling for pack leader position the whole time. Then, walk them back into your home together. That way, the JR will have gotten used to the GR, so when you walk them into the house together, the JR will be welcoming the GR
Wow thats a plucky little Golden Retriever you have there!
Ideally, you should let the older dog do what he wants to put the puppy in his place. Its far better that your JR teaches him his doggy manners rather than the local thug in the park and it sounds as if this GR needs some doggy manners!
Growling, snarling, snapping and pushing with shoulders are all ok doggy threats and warnings - its only when teeth are used or the snapping actually is biting (dogs who snap miss on purpose trust me!) and you think one will harm the other that you need to intervene. The only way to stop aggressive behaviour between dogs is to seperate them but I suspect that this is not real aggression and that given time and space, they will both settle down. Don't give either dog more attention and don't let your JR get the upper hand over you by demanding treats or games etc as this will worsen his short temper with the pup.
Finally, pups are notorious play actors. If your JR snaps at him because he is being frankly rude in dog world, it is like that the pup will make a huge amount of noise and wimper and limp etc etc when he hasn't even been touched. Don't fall for it. Just call your JR away and give him a treat for obeying you. This will defuse the situation.
It may take several weeks for them to settle but they will eventually, just be patient and don't think that the gorgeous little GR pup is all innocent!
Keep them separate but so they can see/smell each other (possibly with a crate or baby gate) but can't get to each other, until they get used to the other one being around. Some fighting will be inevitable as they will each try to establish dominance. This will sort itself out with time, but if they are really bad, separate whenever you can't supervise.
Good luck!
JR is JEALOUS of the new puppy. Do NOT allow him to do that.
Check out the Dog Whisperer on National Geographic TV
The Dog Whisperer is awesome and has a way with animals. Be calm, assertive and stick to the rules you set. You are the pack leader not the JR.
They are getting used to each other the jr feeling that the gr is taking it spot in the house break them together gentle and it will sort it self out good luck
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