Do you consider this child abuse?
Circumcision and ear piercing of babies and small children.
Personally, I feel that circumcision should only be performed for a medical reason. I don't feel that it should be performed on a whim (and I don't feel that a religous reason is sufficient either). There have been outcries in recent years about circumcision of young girls in Africa - so where is the difference?
In addition, who in their right minds performs ear piercings on babies and toddlers? What medical need is there? And those of us that know kids, know that they do all sorts to themselves, so what is there to stop them causing lots of damage to their ears if the stud, etc gets caught on something?
Answers:
No.
I hate pierced ears on children, it's horrible.
I HATE seeing babies with their ears pierced. My daughter is nearly 12, I have said she can get them pierced for her birthday.
Same reasons, young children play so much rough and tumble it is so easy to get caught and rip their ear.
i guess they think that it would hurt less when they are infants coz they forget easily
I wouldn't have a young childs ears pierced so that the child can decided for itself when it grows up (also I agree on the damage thing!). I wasn't allowed to get mine pierced until I was 18, I finally got them done age 22!
As I am not Jewish I will not be having my children circumcised unless it was necessary for medical reasons.
yea i agree ear piercing a kid who doesnt know any better shouldnt be allowed it looks retarted and alot of things can go wrong to get the ear infected, as far as circumsision goes it actually does help because its much more sanitary and if done by a certified doctor there wouldnt be complications
no
Hmm.
Circumsision for a girl. no way, I just don't think so. No, thank you. NO. not for any of my children.
For a boy. I think that is a choice that the man/youth should do for himself.
About ear piercing. mine were piereced when I was a year and a half and I don't recall anything unpleasant, either the piercing itself, or later occasions. It depends on what earrings are placed, though, I think - mine were very small (gold or silver) hoops, just a big bigger than fitting my ears, and there was not much chance of their getting caught on anything. So I think it depends on what is done _after_ the piercing, rather than the piercing itself.
Totally agree with you. unless there is a medical reason for it, no babies should be sliced or diced or pierced
I totally agree about the ear piercing.
As to the circumcision:
Circumcising girls IS NOT IN ANY WAY like circumcising a boy. They do it to girls in order to deprive them of sexual pleasure and it is completely primitive and abusive. It is done in societies where girls are regarded as second grade people. You cannot say that about circumcising a boy.
I agree circumcising needs to be done by a medical professional. BUT, there are benefits to being circumcised. Medical benefits. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about circumcising of boys, but it's not as bad as circumcising a girl.
hmmm! good question, i dont agree with the whole ear piercing etc but the religious circumcision on males if it does not endanger the health i could go along with, afterall its their religion and tradition. if the circumcision on girls is what i think it is then its barbaric , no proper religion would have that .
Circumcision is to help the man stay cleaner. Have you ever met a man that doesn't have one? I have and he hated it. Think about. How many boys, that are too old to be bathed by their mothers, will completely clean the inside of the foreskin? If it is not cleaned well, the area will not only smell, but become infected.
Circumcisions of young African girls is to take away all pleasure of sexual intercorse. The woman are not supposed to enjoy sex, however the man is. That is why there is such an uproar.
Ear piercings is something totally different. People do it b/c they want to. Yes I had my daughter's ears pierced at a young age. Only b/c I wanted mine done when I was older, and it hurt like hell. Of course now I have had them pierced several more times, but I'm older and the pain doesn't bother me. I did it so she would not have to go through the pain that I did.
However, someone else will have a different story.
Hope this sheds some light on things.
I don't think you can put male circumcision and female circumcision in the same context. Ok, so you object male circumcision because you question the need for it. However being circumcised does not impede the boy's sexual functions. A circumcised girl would be deprived of clitoral stimulation - for a girl to be circumcised is to deprive her of her right to her of a basic sexual function.
Ear piercing on babies.. well, I do tend to agree as there's no telling what a baby does. An itch on an ear may just lead to the baby pulling on the earring/stud and this could be dangerous. So from a health and safety point of view, not a good idea.
Yup, both are child abuse. Any parent who pierces their kid's ears should have a giant metal bar inserted in somewhere painful and see how they like it.
And infant circumcision? It's just palin cruelty. Men wouldn't have a foreskin if they werent meant to have one. Castrate all circumcisors, that's what I say.
I agree. If there is no medical need for it then don't do it. It is mutilation!
Ear piercing should not be done until the child is old enough to decide for themselves if they want it doing. I was 9 when I had mine done because I wanted them doing, not because my parents forced it upon me.
frankly i dont think its child abuse. There are medical reasons and cleanliness reason for circumsitions, as far as i know they are preformed on ever new born boy unless requested other wise. Ear peicings are stupid. I think the child shouldnt get them until they are old enough to decided if its somthing they want or not. Not to mention theres very many children who are allergic to the mentals used in ear jewlery. They can also cuase infections. I think they are dangerous too, many children will tugg on the earing and stuff becuase it causes discomfort. Theres so many things that could go wrong with them. People have started doing it to so many children like its a natural thing and everyone has it, like your supposed to or somthing. I frown upon young children with ear piercing.
Further more as some one else has mentioned. Most every male is circumsized. It acctually increases sexual plessure later in life too. If you have ever met a male who wasnt circumsized, he is a laughing stock somtimes and every one says how "wierd" or "diffrent" they are. Not to mention they hate it not only for the toment reasons but the sanitary reasons and sexual ones. Most girls i know wont be with a guy who isnt circumsized. From what i have heard it is also harder to preform a circumsition on an older male.. say if you didint do it and he wanted to. Its alot less troublesome to get it out of the way. i have never once heard of a guy complaing becuase he WAS circumsized.
Circumcisions is a religious practice to some cultures. As for being child abuse, i wouldn't call it that! You see my son ahd to be circumcised when aged 3 weeks old. Nothing to do with religion but simply the fact that he couldn't pee! Surgeon told us then that if more baby boys were circumcised it would avoid many problems in their adult life. So i would say no it is not child abuse.
As for piercing children ears . What can i say! It is a ludicrous practice where parents simply think about themselves, not the child.
Circumcision is a religious right that people have.You don't have to circumcise your children.It's a religious belief that Jewish and other religion look at as a way to purify themselves.It's like a Baptism for Catholics.
In addition,I had my ears pierced when i was a baby/toddler.My ears are fine.Stud wont really "hook" onto anything.Would you ever really,in your life,see a baby with hoop earrings.I mean think about it.Hoops and Studs are totally different things.It's not a medical need either.
Sorry to say,I really am,but your a Half-whit.Child abuse for earrings and circumcisions.SMART!
Well, male and female circumcision is different. In girls in Africa, it is designed to make sex painful or at least unenjoyable. In men, it is mostly done for sanitary reasons (easier to clean etc). Now, though, since almost everyone is circumcised its probably going to be easier on the kid to just do it (they won't remember the experience or the pain when they're older). It is much easier for them to have it done when they're young than potentially feel embarrassed enough later to have it done as a teenager or adult.
And they won't have to get it done later if they happen to want to marry a Jewish girl later.
And by the way, circumcision is a pivotal part of being a Jew, as it is the physical sign of a covenant with God. Given that there is no real downside to circumcision, that seems a pretty compelling reason.
Ear piercing is a little less justifiable, but again there is little downside (the odds of a really small stud getting caught on something and causing damage rather than just pulling off are small). I don't think I'd do it, but it hardly calls for violent opposition.
I personly don't like the idea of kids being circumcised but I can understand the religous/social aspect, and I know that when they get older a lot of people have a prefrence for it, so I guess getting it done early isn't so terrible, it doesn't usualy effect them much
ear periciong though I'm with you completly. not only is it unrequired but its actually dangerous, its just an accident waiting to happen, with all the restrictions they put on things you'd think they'd make it so the child has to be older before the parent can legally perice the ears
its not child abuse. thats abit extreme. its pure vanity by the parents. and certain religions/beliefs entertain circumcision.
good job we live in a civilised? society..
There are sound meritful medical reasons for circumcision; none exist for cosmetic whims like ear piercings on infants and small children.
The latter is a loud statement of parental responsibility that reinforces the belief the parents aren't any more grown up / mature than their children.
And yes: ear piercings on infants and small children are examples of child abuse that isn't viewed so by the law.
Circumcision, I believe gets more painful the older the boy gets, so you are probably doing them a favour by having the procedure done when the child is too young to remember, however it still seems a bit barbaric to me.
Ear piercing I think is another story. This is done purely out of vanity..the parents vanity.
However, more importantly to me is the fact that babies, toddlers and small children run and play in a way not suited to having jewellry attached to their ears (although the same applies for any jewellry on children) and it becomes a dangerous obstacle. I get angry at parents who let their 5 yr old girls run around with hooped earrings etc.as they can so easily get hooked and tear the ear lobe. I think that piercings should be left until the child is old enough to understand and appreciate it.
if you have a male baby circumsion is the right thing to do b/c if you don't then later in his life he can have infections if not taken care of right! I believe the ear piercing shouldn't be done on babys b/c piercing things has to do w/ personaities, and baby's don't have that much of a personality yet. But I also dont think that it is not that dangerous if taken care of right. I had my ears peirced when I was a toddler and they got infectednot b/c my mother didn't clean them just b/c i am allergic to fake jewelery (stearling silver ext.) So I would be really careful in doing things like that but I don't consider either one child abuse!!
the reason there are ppl who pierce there babies ears is so that they get used to it.
if they get it done when there older (between 12 and 14) they will play with it and pick at it alot.
this will ussually lead to an infection. so they get them done early so the baby gets used to it and they never end up picking at there ears.
if you plan to let a kid peirce there ears and aviod an infection there are only to times to do it.
when there really young
or when there old enough not to pick at them (ussually ppl over 14)
so which is more child abusive? getting an ear peirced when there babies to aviod an infection? or waiting until there older knowing that it will most likly end up infected from being played with and an infection will last longer and hurt worse.
and with thsoe peirceing guns getting an ear peirced doesnt even hurt slightly so the babie prolly cant feel it.
male circumcision can cause more problems that it solves. many men suffer from chronic itching of the scar site and the penis becomes de-sensitised due to the constant contact with clothing etc which has huge effects on their sex lives.. a foreskin is there for a reason. there is no hygene issue with retaining a foreskin, and if men are unclean with one, they'll sure as hell be unclean without one!! there are alternatives to full foreskin removal, such as stretching of the skin. my son is 3 and it has been obvious from birth that he'll need something done as his foreskin is very tight, but every doctor i have seen has refused to perform the operation before the age of 4 as the penis changes so much. if the op is done on an infant, there is a very big risk of too much skin being removed.
female circs are a totally different catagory, the nerves surrounding the clitoris are cut out, and often the labia are sewn tgethert. it's a crude, cruel and completely unnecessary form of genital mutilation.
as for ear piercing, that should be the choice f the individual. if it hurts as an adult, it's going to inflict the same amout of pain on a small child, and the child doesn't have the luxury of being able to rationalise this pain.
I have never read as much bullsh*t as some of the women have witten on their answers!
its cleaner to be circumcised?
It's better to be circumcised?
Listen sex is much better with a fore skin, are they saying I am dirty?
It is CHILD ABUSE, no excuses, no pathetic answers, CHILD ABUSE.
Yes because they can't choose for themselves!
Child abuse? You've got to be kidding me. Circumcision is not a choice males can decide later in life. Generally, there are valid religious and hygenic reasons for it. In some Latin cultures, baby girls have their ears pierced in the hospital. I had mine pierced as an infant and so did my daughter. In neither case did anything adverse happen. I think that you need to understand that other cultures have a basis outside of cruelty. The African tribe seems cruel. You don't seem to understand the differences of all three of the scenarios, and you seem to be closed minded to other cultures.
http://www.eskimo.com/~gburlin/mgm/facts.
I feel that the ritual mutilation of millions of male genitals a year is JUST as valid an atrocity as the so called 'female circumcisions'.
It is an extremely common practice in the US for non-medical reasons, purely 'it's just the way it is' and it has become ingrained into the social & medical culture. It's less common in the UK, but becoming more popular again for social reasons rather than medical.
There are very few health benefits from being circumcised.and virtually no sexual benefits, infact it WILL reduce male sensation as the glans that would have been protected by the prepuce & the associated sebatious oils (under the foreskin) develops harder keloid skin from rubbing on clothing & being permanently dry. Also, unless the 'operation' is done correctly - it can result in nerve damage, deformation and unsighty scars - not what I would call normal. As for being 'dirty' or risking infection, any young boy is capable of washing himself, and besides, it's the way we are made. This body modification to meet social standards is pathetic.
There ARE a few reasons for legitimate circumcision in my views. And although I don't agree with the PHYSICAL 'mark' I appreciate how important it is to the Jewish faith & some others.
Nearly ALL young boys have very tight foreskins - so no reason there, but during puberty in VERY rare circumstances, it can become too tight for comfort - in general, this phase will pass so no intervention is required. In very sandy locations (such as the Jews wandering in wilderness for 40 years), urinating during a sand storm may lodge sand grains under the foreskin which could in turn cause infections - being circumcised in this instance is possibly a good thing.
The myths surrounding 'increased pleasure' or 'better sex', are just that - myths. As i already mentioned the reduced sensation (I know, how can a circumcised man tell if it has been reduced..) for the male. Granted, this WILL increase his 'staying power' and extend the time taken to climax (much like an intact man wearing a condom) - but better use of technique can do exactly the same thing ;) How it affects the woman is more obvious, rather than having the entire surface of the vagina abraded by an insensitive penis, the foreskin (although fully retaracted) allows for a bit of 'slack' during intercourse.
In short - no child of mine will be subjected to this barbaric practice to 'conform'.
feel the same as you on the circumcision especially on African girls must be agony it is actually illegal in this country , but still happens in our country its not illegal in Africa , i also believe circumcision in boys should be for medical reasons only .
earrings , my daughter has hers done , only just shes 6 that was younger than anticipated believe me , but i don't believe in babies and young toddlers having them done my daughter made her own decision and it was done as a treat not as a fashion accessory to make me look good ! i work in a playgroup and its amazing how many children under 4 have their ears done !
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Personally, I feel that circumcision should only be performed for a medical reason. I don't feel that it should be performed on a whim (and I don't feel that a religous reason is sufficient either). There have been outcries in recent years about circumcision of young girls in Africa - so where is the difference?
In addition, who in their right minds performs ear piercings on babies and toddlers? What medical need is there? And those of us that know kids, know that they do all sorts to themselves, so what is there to stop them causing lots of damage to their ears if the stud, etc gets caught on something?
Answers:
No.
I hate pierced ears on children, it's horrible.
I HATE seeing babies with their ears pierced. My daughter is nearly 12, I have said she can get them pierced for her birthday.
Same reasons, young children play so much rough and tumble it is so easy to get caught and rip their ear.
i guess they think that it would hurt less when they are infants coz they forget easily
I wouldn't have a young childs ears pierced so that the child can decided for itself when it grows up (also I agree on the damage thing!). I wasn't allowed to get mine pierced until I was 18, I finally got them done age 22!
As I am not Jewish I will not be having my children circumcised unless it was necessary for medical reasons.
yea i agree ear piercing a kid who doesnt know any better shouldnt be allowed it looks retarted and alot of things can go wrong to get the ear infected, as far as circumsision goes it actually does help because its much more sanitary and if done by a certified doctor there wouldnt be complications
no
Hmm.
Circumsision for a girl. no way, I just don't think so. No, thank you. NO. not for any of my children.
For a boy. I think that is a choice that the man/youth should do for himself.
About ear piercing. mine were piereced when I was a year and a half and I don't recall anything unpleasant, either the piercing itself, or later occasions. It depends on what earrings are placed, though, I think - mine were very small (gold or silver) hoops, just a big bigger than fitting my ears, and there was not much chance of their getting caught on anything. So I think it depends on what is done _after_ the piercing, rather than the piercing itself.
Totally agree with you. unless there is a medical reason for it, no babies should be sliced or diced or pierced
I totally agree about the ear piercing.
As to the circumcision:
Circumcising girls IS NOT IN ANY WAY like circumcising a boy. They do it to girls in order to deprive them of sexual pleasure and it is completely primitive and abusive. It is done in societies where girls are regarded as second grade people. You cannot say that about circumcising a boy.
I agree circumcising needs to be done by a medical professional. BUT, there are benefits to being circumcised. Medical benefits. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about circumcising of boys, but it's not as bad as circumcising a girl.
hmmm! good question, i dont agree with the whole ear piercing etc but the religious circumcision on males if it does not endanger the health i could go along with, afterall its their religion and tradition. if the circumcision on girls is what i think it is then its barbaric , no proper religion would have that .
Circumcision is to help the man stay cleaner. Have you ever met a man that doesn't have one? I have and he hated it. Think about. How many boys, that are too old to be bathed by their mothers, will completely clean the inside of the foreskin? If it is not cleaned well, the area will not only smell, but become infected.
Circumcisions of young African girls is to take away all pleasure of sexual intercorse. The woman are not supposed to enjoy sex, however the man is. That is why there is such an uproar.
Ear piercings is something totally different. People do it b/c they want to. Yes I had my daughter's ears pierced at a young age. Only b/c I wanted mine done when I was older, and it hurt like hell. Of course now I have had them pierced several more times, but I'm older and the pain doesn't bother me. I did it so she would not have to go through the pain that I did.
However, someone else will have a different story.
Hope this sheds some light on things.
I don't think you can put male circumcision and female circumcision in the same context. Ok, so you object male circumcision because you question the need for it. However being circumcised does not impede the boy's sexual functions. A circumcised girl would be deprived of clitoral stimulation - for a girl to be circumcised is to deprive her of her right to her of a basic sexual function.
Ear piercing on babies.. well, I do tend to agree as there's no telling what a baby does. An itch on an ear may just lead to the baby pulling on the earring/stud and this could be dangerous. So from a health and safety point of view, not a good idea.
Yup, both are child abuse. Any parent who pierces their kid's ears should have a giant metal bar inserted in somewhere painful and see how they like it.
And infant circumcision? It's just palin cruelty. Men wouldn't have a foreskin if they werent meant to have one. Castrate all circumcisors, that's what I say.
I agree. If there is no medical need for it then don't do it. It is mutilation!
Ear piercing should not be done until the child is old enough to decide for themselves if they want it doing. I was 9 when I had mine done because I wanted them doing, not because my parents forced it upon me.
frankly i dont think its child abuse. There are medical reasons and cleanliness reason for circumsitions, as far as i know they are preformed on ever new born boy unless requested other wise. Ear peicings are stupid. I think the child shouldnt get them until they are old enough to decided if its somthing they want or not. Not to mention theres very many children who are allergic to the mentals used in ear jewlery. They can also cuase infections. I think they are dangerous too, many children will tugg on the earing and stuff becuase it causes discomfort. Theres so many things that could go wrong with them. People have started doing it to so many children like its a natural thing and everyone has it, like your supposed to or somthing. I frown upon young children with ear piercing.
Further more as some one else has mentioned. Most every male is circumsized. It acctually increases sexual plessure later in life too. If you have ever met a male who wasnt circumsized, he is a laughing stock somtimes and every one says how "wierd" or "diffrent" they are. Not to mention they hate it not only for the toment reasons but the sanitary reasons and sexual ones. Most girls i know wont be with a guy who isnt circumsized. From what i have heard it is also harder to preform a circumsition on an older male.. say if you didint do it and he wanted to. Its alot less troublesome to get it out of the way. i have never once heard of a guy complaing becuase he WAS circumsized.
Circumcisions is a religious practice to some cultures. As for being child abuse, i wouldn't call it that! You see my son ahd to be circumcised when aged 3 weeks old. Nothing to do with religion but simply the fact that he couldn't pee! Surgeon told us then that if more baby boys were circumcised it would avoid many problems in their adult life. So i would say no it is not child abuse.
As for piercing children ears . What can i say! It is a ludicrous practice where parents simply think about themselves, not the child.
Circumcision is a religious right that people have.You don't have to circumcise your children.It's a religious belief that Jewish and other religion look at as a way to purify themselves.It's like a Baptism for Catholics.
In addition,I had my ears pierced when i was a baby/toddler.My ears are fine.Stud wont really "hook" onto anything.Would you ever really,in your life,see a baby with hoop earrings.I mean think about it.Hoops and Studs are totally different things.It's not a medical need either.
Sorry to say,I really am,but your a Half-whit.Child abuse for earrings and circumcisions.SMART!
Well, male and female circumcision is different. In girls in Africa, it is designed to make sex painful or at least unenjoyable. In men, it is mostly done for sanitary reasons (easier to clean etc). Now, though, since almost everyone is circumcised its probably going to be easier on the kid to just do it (they won't remember the experience or the pain when they're older). It is much easier for them to have it done when they're young than potentially feel embarrassed enough later to have it done as a teenager or adult.
And they won't have to get it done later if they happen to want to marry a Jewish girl later.
And by the way, circumcision is a pivotal part of being a Jew, as it is the physical sign of a covenant with God. Given that there is no real downside to circumcision, that seems a pretty compelling reason.
Ear piercing is a little less justifiable, but again there is little downside (the odds of a really small stud getting caught on something and causing damage rather than just pulling off are small). I don't think I'd do it, but it hardly calls for violent opposition.
I personly don't like the idea of kids being circumcised but I can understand the religous/social aspect, and I know that when they get older a lot of people have a prefrence for it, so I guess getting it done early isn't so terrible, it doesn't usualy effect them much
ear periciong though I'm with you completly. not only is it unrequired but its actually dangerous, its just an accident waiting to happen, with all the restrictions they put on things you'd think they'd make it so the child has to be older before the parent can legally perice the ears
its not child abuse. thats abit extreme. its pure vanity by the parents. and certain religions/beliefs entertain circumcision.
good job we live in a civilised? society..
There are sound meritful medical reasons for circumcision; none exist for cosmetic whims like ear piercings on infants and small children.
The latter is a loud statement of parental responsibility that reinforces the belief the parents aren't any more grown up / mature than their children.
And yes: ear piercings on infants and small children are examples of child abuse that isn't viewed so by the law.
Circumcision, I believe gets more painful the older the boy gets, so you are probably doing them a favour by having the procedure done when the child is too young to remember, however it still seems a bit barbaric to me.
Ear piercing I think is another story. This is done purely out of vanity..the parents vanity.
However, more importantly to me is the fact that babies, toddlers and small children run and play in a way not suited to having jewellry attached to their ears (although the same applies for any jewellry on children) and it becomes a dangerous obstacle. I get angry at parents who let their 5 yr old girls run around with hooped earrings etc.as they can so easily get hooked and tear the ear lobe. I think that piercings should be left until the child is old enough to understand and appreciate it.
if you have a male baby circumsion is the right thing to do b/c if you don't then later in his life he can have infections if not taken care of right! I believe the ear piercing shouldn't be done on babys b/c piercing things has to do w/ personaities, and baby's don't have that much of a personality yet. But I also dont think that it is not that dangerous if taken care of right. I had my ears peirced when I was a toddler and they got infectednot b/c my mother didn't clean them just b/c i am allergic to fake jewelery (stearling silver ext.) So I would be really careful in doing things like that but I don't consider either one child abuse!!
the reason there are ppl who pierce there babies ears is so that they get used to it.
if they get it done when there older (between 12 and 14) they will play with it and pick at it alot.
this will ussually lead to an infection. so they get them done early so the baby gets used to it and they never end up picking at there ears.
if you plan to let a kid peirce there ears and aviod an infection there are only to times to do it.
when there really young
or when there old enough not to pick at them (ussually ppl over 14)
so which is more child abusive? getting an ear peirced when there babies to aviod an infection? or waiting until there older knowing that it will most likly end up infected from being played with and an infection will last longer and hurt worse.
and with thsoe peirceing guns getting an ear peirced doesnt even hurt slightly so the babie prolly cant feel it.
male circumcision can cause more problems that it solves. many men suffer from chronic itching of the scar site and the penis becomes de-sensitised due to the constant contact with clothing etc which has huge effects on their sex lives.. a foreskin is there for a reason. there is no hygene issue with retaining a foreskin, and if men are unclean with one, they'll sure as hell be unclean without one!! there are alternatives to full foreskin removal, such as stretching of the skin. my son is 3 and it has been obvious from birth that he'll need something done as his foreskin is very tight, but every doctor i have seen has refused to perform the operation before the age of 4 as the penis changes so much. if the op is done on an infant, there is a very big risk of too much skin being removed.
female circs are a totally different catagory, the nerves surrounding the clitoris are cut out, and often the labia are sewn tgethert. it's a crude, cruel and completely unnecessary form of genital mutilation.
as for ear piercing, that should be the choice f the individual. if it hurts as an adult, it's going to inflict the same amout of pain on a small child, and the child doesn't have the luxury of being able to rationalise this pain.
I have never read as much bullsh*t as some of the women have witten on their answers!
its cleaner to be circumcised?
It's better to be circumcised?
Listen sex is much better with a fore skin, are they saying I am dirty?
It is CHILD ABUSE, no excuses, no pathetic answers, CHILD ABUSE.
Yes because they can't choose for themselves!
Child abuse? You've got to be kidding me. Circumcision is not a choice males can decide later in life. Generally, there are valid religious and hygenic reasons for it. In some Latin cultures, baby girls have their ears pierced in the hospital. I had mine pierced as an infant and so did my daughter. In neither case did anything adverse happen. I think that you need to understand that other cultures have a basis outside of cruelty. The African tribe seems cruel. You don't seem to understand the differences of all three of the scenarios, and you seem to be closed minded to other cultures.
http://www.eskimo.com/~gburlin/mgm/facts.
I feel that the ritual mutilation of millions of male genitals a year is JUST as valid an atrocity as the so called 'female circumcisions'.
It is an extremely common practice in the US for non-medical reasons, purely 'it's just the way it is' and it has become ingrained into the social & medical culture. It's less common in the UK, but becoming more popular again for social reasons rather than medical.
There are very few health benefits from being circumcised.and virtually no sexual benefits, infact it WILL reduce male sensation as the glans that would have been protected by the prepuce & the associated sebatious oils (under the foreskin) develops harder keloid skin from rubbing on clothing & being permanently dry. Also, unless the 'operation' is done correctly - it can result in nerve damage, deformation and unsighty scars - not what I would call normal. As for being 'dirty' or risking infection, any young boy is capable of washing himself, and besides, it's the way we are made. This body modification to meet social standards is pathetic.
There ARE a few reasons for legitimate circumcision in my views. And although I don't agree with the PHYSICAL 'mark' I appreciate how important it is to the Jewish faith & some others.
Nearly ALL young boys have very tight foreskins - so no reason there, but during puberty in VERY rare circumstances, it can become too tight for comfort - in general, this phase will pass so no intervention is required. In very sandy locations (such as the Jews wandering in wilderness for 40 years), urinating during a sand storm may lodge sand grains under the foreskin which could in turn cause infections - being circumcised in this instance is possibly a good thing.
The myths surrounding 'increased pleasure' or 'better sex', are just that - myths. As i already mentioned the reduced sensation (I know, how can a circumcised man tell if it has been reduced..) for the male. Granted, this WILL increase his 'staying power' and extend the time taken to climax (much like an intact man wearing a condom) - but better use of technique can do exactly the same thing ;) How it affects the woman is more obvious, rather than having the entire surface of the vagina abraded by an insensitive penis, the foreskin (although fully retaracted) allows for a bit of 'slack' during intercourse.
In short - no child of mine will be subjected to this barbaric practice to 'conform'.
feel the same as you on the circumcision especially on African girls must be agony it is actually illegal in this country , but still happens in our country its not illegal in Africa , i also believe circumcision in boys should be for medical reasons only .
earrings , my daughter has hers done , only just shes 6 that was younger than anticipated believe me , but i don't believe in babies and young toddlers having them done my daughter made her own decision and it was done as a treat not as a fashion accessory to make me look good ! i work in a playgroup and its amazing how many children under 4 have their ears done !
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