Why can't gay/lesbians be called a physical disorder?
No offence. But just because there is no medical treatment for this, we shouldn't just assume that this is natural. It's a human body disorder and medical science needs to find a cure for this rather than saying that this is nothing but natural.
Answers:
Because it's sexual orientation and not a disorder. That's like asking why isn't being left handed considered a physical disorder. I mean it was a century ago but fortunately people aren't that narrow minded any more. Oh wait yes they are they have just moved on to different things. I don't get why if you aren't gay or lesbian it even concerns you. I know what people do in their own homes doesn't bother me. They aren't hurting anyone so whats the problem. If animals can do it then there must be some natural reason for it.
Because it is a mental disorder, that's why.
yep mental disorder.
b/c some gays/lesbians were naturally born that way and some werent they just started to because of their setting maybe in a gay enviroment so thats why someone can become gay/lesbian
the answer= b/c you can have it at birth or form it. and it's not fact. the person can determine if they are gay or not . gay one day gay not. get it.
mentally, and the enviroment they grew up in.
You most certainly can call this a physical disorder,, Matter of fact you can call it wharever you like.. It's a free country
Gays and lesbians engage in a particular lifestyle.
I find nothing wrong with it, and am certain it is not a physical disorder.
Perhaps we should seek a cure for your ignorance and stupidity
I think you'll find, as the scientists etc are now, that this is not a condition or anything. It is something that is in the genes of a person.
We can look at it from a point of view that Heteros are the sick ones because they aren't like us. It is not a matter of a medical issue because there is nothing wrong with gays/lesbians - it's a matter of intolerance and the mentality of people who have small minds.
Because it comes down to personal choice. Many choices are not "natural" but we have been given a will to make decisions by God. We also have been given the choice to be empathetic, sympathetic and forgiving of others if they choose another path in life that is not similar to our own. I'm sure this is not the answer you were looking for but everyone has a choice and we will eventually answer for those choices. In the end, let's live and let live.
Oh dear another open minded soul of the world?
Look, if it's a disorder, then it's one we share with most of the animal kingdom. If that doesn't make it 'natural', I don't know what does. Also, if something can be said to occur without having been forced or persuaded into being, then what is it but natural? EH? I mean...
Actually I believe its 50/50. Some people are born with the opposite sexs genes making the homosexual. Some become homosexual due to their lifestyles. I dont think there should be a cure for it though. Its as "natural" as any other "disorder" cept the consequences arent that bad. So what if some dude wants a boyfriend, or a chick wants a girlfriend. As long as theyre not hurting anyone its fine. The only bad thing about homosexuality is that its tied with promiscuity and tagged with STI`s and such. Thats supposed to be the individual, but more often than not the group takes the blame - has anyone been to Manchesters Gay Village or been there during Pride. I can see why homosexuality gets a bad name. But (though Im not gay.) I have a lot of gay friends that are as normal as anyone in the street - some that arent, but hey - define normal!
Phew, that was a bit much wasnt it?
Homosexuality cant be called a physical disorder because its NOT!
It is also no longer considered a mental disoder..check the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition.
Lets just accept them and move on..
Although it is a genetic mutation, outside of sexual preference there are no other symptoms. Calling this a medical/physical disorder and looking for a cure would be akin to "curing" people of being sexually aroused by feet. Also, have you ever stopped to think about the fact that all of these people don't want to be "cured", meaning that there isn't a demand for this kind of product in the first place, although I'm sure that wouldn't stop insane christians with deep pockets from throwing money at people claiming to be looking for one.
To this date, medical, scientific, or any other groups of professionals has not come out with a credible, verifiable, and provable reasons why people choose to be gay or straight.
We still don't know if it is normal or abnormal. We don't know if it is environmental, genetic, or any other reasons.
History shows, gays and lesbians existed for centuries in various cultures. There are signs these "conditions" exist in species outside of humans also.
Other than many people going hysteric over someone else's sexuality, and not minding their own business, there has been no real advance over the science of sexuality.
I suggest you don't label them abnormal and call for treatment, unless you have something rest of the world don't.
Pllll ..ease don't insult these people too much, call them by their proper names: Poofs and Dykes
no offence but lots taken i would say.Who's to say that it is not natural show me scientific evidence to say that homosexuality is not normal and is not a body disorder. And medical cure? your not on the same bloody planet, you can no more "cure" homosexuality than you can heterosexuality, and as for people choose to be gay? HELLO why would anyone choose to be part of a minority that is sometimes so hated that there are people in this world who would happily see you killed for who you choose to love and does anybody honestly think people who choose this. and for the person that asked this stupid question and followed it up with the biggest lot of verbal diarrhoea that medical science could be better put to use finding cures for silly insignificant things like Cancer, Heart Disease, and A.I.D.S
I am sorry to say it, but you realise that your question will be removed because the homosexuals will complain ?I will answer you by saying that some reports have stated that it is not natural.
By the way to everyone of you that have a different opinion to the questioner, I say this is a country with ,supposedly free speech, and he is entitled to say what he likes, as you do.
Beats me, except it is in the mind.
Is the enjoyiment of driving at high speed, Clarksonitis or Jeremys syndrome a physical disorder, is there a cure, I bloody well hope not, so why should shirt lifters have their hobby spoiled by medical intervention.
Try some miracle Brain Grow.
I cannot understand how you can say no offence at the begining of your question and then go on to be offensive. Why should people be considered disordered and in need of a cure because their choice of sexual partner is different to yours? Why does it need treating?
I find your comments offensive, I will not report them as I believe passionatly in free speech, as are many of those that I have read so far in the answers to this question. By suggesting that people have a physical (or mental) disorder you are suggesting that their lifestyle is inappropriate and deviant. Do you not deviate from the norm in any way? Does that make you deviant - no of course not. Different not deviant.
Being gay or lesbian is not a lifestyle choice anymore than your fancying the opposite sex is a choice. It who you are.
Cure is for illness and disease - lets worry about curing cancer, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, and all those other life stealing disgusting illnesses that steal peoples health and lives.
Leave healthy people to their follow their own life affirming path.
In 1992 that the World Health Organisation ceased to classify homosexuality as a mental disorder, followed by the UK Government in 1994 It was not classified as a physical disorder at any point.
Interesting, I quote: HELLO why would anyone choose to be part of a minority that is sometimes so hated that there are people in this world who would happily see you killed for who you choose to love. Are we talking about Gays or Christians?
Because half the world is ruled by politically correct fanatics and the other half by Muslim fanatics.
It's a psychological disorder and because it is still a new phenomenon and currently being studied it cannot be classified as a physical disorder and therefore your local gp is not entitled to deal with this without proper and thorough knowledge of human psychology.
Oh but it can be cured, just take a look. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0179116/.
What is natural?. How can we really define that?. Maybe it's us hetros that have it wrong. Maybe man and women are only supposed to make babies, but have relationships with the same sex. Men spend time with their male friends guzzling beer, women spend time with their female friends - both understand each other, so should we all be attracted to the same sex but use the other sex to have babies?. It's nothing to do with the environment people live in, hetros aren't hetros because their family and friends are, it's because that's what they prefer and the same go with gay. Don't take advice from old religious books, don't listen to narrow minded people. I think it's far more unnatural to go around killing innocent humans and animals, we can't be here on the earth to kill our own, that must be wrong!. People will take offence, maybe you wanted a rise out of others, but medical science, the bible or anyone/anything else can't really answer your question. They have proved we are born with the attraction to same or different sex, or both (they are the lucky ones!). Did you know animals have gay sex?..doesn't that say something?. Why cure something that isn't an illness or disorder, why change something that's normal...l myself being a women only attracted to men would not want doctors to find a cure for me to fancy women only.why would a gay person need a cure to change what they like?. What about the animals that are at it with each other..That's what most people would call nature !!.
Being a sort of Doctor, I think I could cure nearly all Queers?
I would prescribe anabolic steroids to them. This would depend on wether it was a male or female which type you got? This would work
by altering testosterone levels in the body.
Then if this didn't work they'd get a kicking!
In her book 'The Second Sex', Simone deBeavoir wrote that 'one is not born, but rather becomes a woman' alluiding to the fact that our identities, of which heterosexuality, homosexuality and lesbiansm are merely a part, are merely constructs. Our identities are constantly reenacted through practices that express a continual process of becoming as well as being. The basic premise is that our core identities, of which our sexuality plays an important part, are socially constructed and not biologically deterministic and therefore can't be called a physical disorder. Homosexuality and lesbianism are contextually formed within and by our culture and our culture is a result of us daily creating and re-creating ourselves in a game which we both form and are players in. To call something that is formed through the social interaction of people a disorder is the same as saying that supporting a football club or wearing jeans is a disorder. As the 'cause' so to say is cultural and not biological then the only 'treatment' available is to re-examine one's own assumptions of what is 'normal'.
Firstly this is a really stupid and obnoxious question.
In order for being gay to be a disorder, you have to make the assumption that being gay is somehow wrong.
Now as animals throught the world (including humans) demonstrate homosexual and bisexual behaviour - it's likely that this behaviour is both normal and hard wired.
There are actually human civilisations in which heterosexual behaviour is considered abberrant and only for the purposes of reproduction and homosexuality is the social norm for both sexes - bet you didn't know that did you? So take your sad stupid prejudice and place it up your bum and see just how much fun that could be.
Why do I always distrust sentences that start with "no offence"? Gee, would you look this one is no exception: 'no offence, but you're sick and need to be cured'.
So, here's my response: "No offence, but when are we going to find a cure for ignorance and bigotry? Sure, it's accepted by some cultures and societies but we shouldn't assume it's natural, it needs to be cured."
It is not a disorder at all. Nobody is 100% 'straight' even if you swear blind that you've never thought someone of the same sex is good looking.
As it is a natural state there is no cure.
Maybe we should look for a cure for the strange people who
believe in god!!
Or a cute for bigotry!!
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Because it's sexual orientation and not a disorder. That's like asking why isn't being left handed considered a physical disorder. I mean it was a century ago but fortunately people aren't that narrow minded any more. Oh wait yes they are they have just moved on to different things. I don't get why if you aren't gay or lesbian it even concerns you. I know what people do in their own homes doesn't bother me. They aren't hurting anyone so whats the problem. If animals can do it then there must be some natural reason for it.
Because it is a mental disorder, that's why.
yep mental disorder.
b/c some gays/lesbians were naturally born that way and some werent they just started to because of their setting maybe in a gay enviroment so thats why someone can become gay/lesbian
the answer= b/c you can have it at birth or form it. and it's not fact. the person can determine if they are gay or not . gay one day gay not. get it.
mentally, and the enviroment they grew up in.
You most certainly can call this a physical disorder,, Matter of fact you can call it wharever you like.. It's a free country
Gays and lesbians engage in a particular lifestyle.
I find nothing wrong with it, and am certain it is not a physical disorder.
Perhaps we should seek a cure for your ignorance and stupidity
I think you'll find, as the scientists etc are now, that this is not a condition or anything. It is something that is in the genes of a person.
We can look at it from a point of view that Heteros are the sick ones because they aren't like us. It is not a matter of a medical issue because there is nothing wrong with gays/lesbians - it's a matter of intolerance and the mentality of people who have small minds.
Because it comes down to personal choice. Many choices are not "natural" but we have been given a will to make decisions by God. We also have been given the choice to be empathetic, sympathetic and forgiving of others if they choose another path in life that is not similar to our own. I'm sure this is not the answer you were looking for but everyone has a choice and we will eventually answer for those choices. In the end, let's live and let live.
Oh dear another open minded soul of the world?
Look, if it's a disorder, then it's one we share with most of the animal kingdom. If that doesn't make it 'natural', I don't know what does. Also, if something can be said to occur without having been forced or persuaded into being, then what is it but natural? EH? I mean...
Actually I believe its 50/50. Some people are born with the opposite sexs genes making the homosexual. Some become homosexual due to their lifestyles. I dont think there should be a cure for it though. Its as "natural" as any other "disorder" cept the consequences arent that bad. So what if some dude wants a boyfriend, or a chick wants a girlfriend. As long as theyre not hurting anyone its fine. The only bad thing about homosexuality is that its tied with promiscuity and tagged with STI`s and such. Thats supposed to be the individual, but more often than not the group takes the blame - has anyone been to Manchesters Gay Village or been there during Pride. I can see why homosexuality gets a bad name. But (though Im not gay.) I have a lot of gay friends that are as normal as anyone in the street - some that arent, but hey - define normal!
Phew, that was a bit much wasnt it?
Homosexuality cant be called a physical disorder because its NOT!
It is also no longer considered a mental disoder..check the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition.
Lets just accept them and move on..
Although it is a genetic mutation, outside of sexual preference there are no other symptoms. Calling this a medical/physical disorder and looking for a cure would be akin to "curing" people of being sexually aroused by feet. Also, have you ever stopped to think about the fact that all of these people don't want to be "cured", meaning that there isn't a demand for this kind of product in the first place, although I'm sure that wouldn't stop insane christians with deep pockets from throwing money at people claiming to be looking for one.
To this date, medical, scientific, or any other groups of professionals has not come out with a credible, verifiable, and provable reasons why people choose to be gay or straight.
We still don't know if it is normal or abnormal. We don't know if it is environmental, genetic, or any other reasons.
History shows, gays and lesbians existed for centuries in various cultures. There are signs these "conditions" exist in species outside of humans also.
Other than many people going hysteric over someone else's sexuality, and not minding their own business, there has been no real advance over the science of sexuality.
I suggest you don't label them abnormal and call for treatment, unless you have something rest of the world don't.
Pllll ..ease don't insult these people too much, call them by their proper names: Poofs and Dykes
no offence but lots taken i would say.Who's to say that it is not natural show me scientific evidence to say that homosexuality is not normal and is not a body disorder. And medical cure? your not on the same bloody planet, you can no more "cure" homosexuality than you can heterosexuality, and as for people choose to be gay? HELLO why would anyone choose to be part of a minority that is sometimes so hated that there are people in this world who would happily see you killed for who you choose to love and does anybody honestly think people who choose this. and for the person that asked this stupid question and followed it up with the biggest lot of verbal diarrhoea that medical science could be better put to use finding cures for silly insignificant things like Cancer, Heart Disease, and A.I.D.S
I am sorry to say it, but you realise that your question will be removed because the homosexuals will complain ?I will answer you by saying that some reports have stated that it is not natural.
By the way to everyone of you that have a different opinion to the questioner, I say this is a country with ,supposedly free speech, and he is entitled to say what he likes, as you do.
Beats me, except it is in the mind.
Is the enjoyiment of driving at high speed, Clarksonitis or Jeremys syndrome a physical disorder, is there a cure, I bloody well hope not, so why should shirt lifters have their hobby spoiled by medical intervention.
Try some miracle Brain Grow.
I cannot understand how you can say no offence at the begining of your question and then go on to be offensive. Why should people be considered disordered and in need of a cure because their choice of sexual partner is different to yours? Why does it need treating?
I find your comments offensive, I will not report them as I believe passionatly in free speech, as are many of those that I have read so far in the answers to this question. By suggesting that people have a physical (or mental) disorder you are suggesting that their lifestyle is inappropriate and deviant. Do you not deviate from the norm in any way? Does that make you deviant - no of course not. Different not deviant.
Being gay or lesbian is not a lifestyle choice anymore than your fancying the opposite sex is a choice. It who you are.
Cure is for illness and disease - lets worry about curing cancer, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, and all those other life stealing disgusting illnesses that steal peoples health and lives.
Leave healthy people to their follow their own life affirming path.
In 1992 that the World Health Organisation ceased to classify homosexuality as a mental disorder, followed by the UK Government in 1994 It was not classified as a physical disorder at any point.
Interesting, I quote: HELLO why would anyone choose to be part of a minority that is sometimes so hated that there are people in this world who would happily see you killed for who you choose to love. Are we talking about Gays or Christians?
Because half the world is ruled by politically correct fanatics and the other half by Muslim fanatics.
It's a psychological disorder and because it is still a new phenomenon and currently being studied it cannot be classified as a physical disorder and therefore your local gp is not entitled to deal with this without proper and thorough knowledge of human psychology.
Oh but it can be cured, just take a look. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0179116/.
What is natural?. How can we really define that?. Maybe it's us hetros that have it wrong. Maybe man and women are only supposed to make babies, but have relationships with the same sex. Men spend time with their male friends guzzling beer, women spend time with their female friends - both understand each other, so should we all be attracted to the same sex but use the other sex to have babies?. It's nothing to do with the environment people live in, hetros aren't hetros because their family and friends are, it's because that's what they prefer and the same go with gay. Don't take advice from old religious books, don't listen to narrow minded people. I think it's far more unnatural to go around killing innocent humans and animals, we can't be here on the earth to kill our own, that must be wrong!. People will take offence, maybe you wanted a rise out of others, but medical science, the bible or anyone/anything else can't really answer your question. They have proved we are born with the attraction to same or different sex, or both (they are the lucky ones!). Did you know animals have gay sex?..doesn't that say something?. Why cure something that isn't an illness or disorder, why change something that's normal...l myself being a women only attracted to men would not want doctors to find a cure for me to fancy women only.why would a gay person need a cure to change what they like?. What about the animals that are at it with each other..That's what most people would call nature !!.
Being a sort of Doctor, I think I could cure nearly all Queers?
I would prescribe anabolic steroids to them. This would depend on wether it was a male or female which type you got? This would work
by altering testosterone levels in the body.
Then if this didn't work they'd get a kicking!
In her book 'The Second Sex', Simone deBeavoir wrote that 'one is not born, but rather becomes a woman' alluiding to the fact that our identities, of which heterosexuality, homosexuality and lesbiansm are merely a part, are merely constructs. Our identities are constantly reenacted through practices that express a continual process of becoming as well as being. The basic premise is that our core identities, of which our sexuality plays an important part, are socially constructed and not biologically deterministic and therefore can't be called a physical disorder. Homosexuality and lesbianism are contextually formed within and by our culture and our culture is a result of us daily creating and re-creating ourselves in a game which we both form and are players in. To call something that is formed through the social interaction of people a disorder is the same as saying that supporting a football club or wearing jeans is a disorder. As the 'cause' so to say is cultural and not biological then the only 'treatment' available is to re-examine one's own assumptions of what is 'normal'.
Firstly this is a really stupid and obnoxious question.
In order for being gay to be a disorder, you have to make the assumption that being gay is somehow wrong.
Now as animals throught the world (including humans) demonstrate homosexual and bisexual behaviour - it's likely that this behaviour is both normal and hard wired.
There are actually human civilisations in which heterosexual behaviour is considered abberrant and only for the purposes of reproduction and homosexuality is the social norm for both sexes - bet you didn't know that did you? So take your sad stupid prejudice and place it up your bum and see just how much fun that could be.
Why do I always distrust sentences that start with "no offence"? Gee, would you look this one is no exception: 'no offence, but you're sick and need to be cured'.
So, here's my response: "No offence, but when are we going to find a cure for ignorance and bigotry? Sure, it's accepted by some cultures and societies but we shouldn't assume it's natural, it needs to be cured."
It is not a disorder at all. Nobody is 100% 'straight' even if you swear blind that you've never thought someone of the same sex is good looking.
As it is a natural state there is no cure.
Maybe we should look for a cure for the strange people who
believe in god!!
Or a cute for bigotry!!
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