In Glasgow we have NEDS?
does each country have a similar type of person? and what do you call them
Answers:
Please explain what you mean by NEDS.
Thanks. Agree with #3 Chav's
What are NEDS? Are they like English CHAV's?
Chavs or ASBO kids.
I was horrified to find out that west midlands has CHAVS..how distressing!!
In Salford we call them scrotes.
As a fellow Glaswegian I feel I have to explain what a NED is first ...
its a form of tracksuit wearing, buckfast/mad dog 20-20/merrydown drinking teen or sometimes 20 something who is aggressive towards everyone including their own reflection..
usually found in packs shouting things like, "Whit you lookin at ya dobber/nugget/heavy dafty/slabber cabbage," and they will proceed to walk over to you to give you a Glasgow kiss (which isnt a peck on the cheek!) or to chib you (and that aint a gentle tickle either)....
NEDS are mostly misunderstood by us all which is why the police love them so and generally like to pick them up on a friday night to take them to the station for a stern talking to i.e. a swift kicking...
they are funny to watch too - but just dont laugh AT them, pretend to laugh WITH them if you value your belongings and/or life !
very good question btw..
In N.Ireland, the boys are called spides or steeks and the girls are called millies.
lol- I did not think they would have definition for it. Search for Google.
They are essentially a post industrial, late adolescent version of the peasant.
They serve a funcion as a locus for a society's self-hatred. All the qualities that the Scots like least about themselves can be located in the NED (aggresion, poor dress sense, lack of purpose, ugliness, alcholic tendencies, parochialism, petty nationaism, philistinism/hatred of culture, collectivism/lack of individuality), who is then subjected to scorn.
It might be pointed out that many of these qualities are the flip side of the Porestant value system that led Scotland to be, in the past, such a successful nation.
I have not seen their like in Brazil, where I now live. The peasantry are different here.
Ive stayed in Germany for a couple of years now and i haven't seen a trace of burberry. They still have delinquents but they seem to flagging behind us fortunate Brits and still have to tolerate skinheads, punks etc.
Non educated delinquents and chavs are one and the same...but they are funny to watch in a well lit place
Neds or no Neds , I like Glasgow kiss.
Chavs seems fairly universal in England now, but back in the day in Birmingham we used to call them Kevs and Shazzas, have heard Bazzas in Cambridge and charvers in Newcastle also.
Unfortunately they do seem to be everywhere in the UK, but there isn't really a US equivalent, so there's at least one country that's chav free.
Oh yeah, and chav (like ned) has its origin in an alleged acronym - Council Housing And Violent
Yeah. I live in Plymouth and we call them "Swillies".
Every town has it's chavs and most countries do too.
Here in the USA we call them RED NECKS. Theyre a class of their own. they dont believe in being walked on nor told how to live their lives. Some are illeterate some are college professors. They will defend their home and their land with blood if they had too. And they will protect you if you ask. Oh, by the way i am a 100% Red Neck White Boy from North Carolina, USA
and they are usually out of their heads on some drug or another, complete losers!!!
NEDS are looked down upon but serve a purpose in the economy.They purchase value added products like designer clothing,consume media like tabloids and cable television.They eat fast food and drink alcohol and wager at places like NEDbrokes.There is a term in America "whigger" which is a white person who adopts the black hip hop culture.They spend money on chrome wheels and athletic clothing.One does not call them that name just like you do not go up and call someone a chav.They display their status like the middle class display status-as far as their credit line will allow.
The global economic system can produce so efficiently that labor is in vast excess,only the well educated can compete and one wrong step will cement your social class in a stratified society.Life as an unnecessary spectator causes psychological escapism that manifests in escapist behavior.The peasant analogy is good and should be said that everywhere they are exploited and kept ignorant by the classes above.They have political power but are kept helpless with pathology then are insulted.
You may all appreciate this done to the tune of American Pie
Glaswegian Pie
A long long time ago,
I can still remember how those weeji bampots made me laugh,
And I know if I had a chance to see those Neds and Sengas dance,
I'd laugh my f*cking ar*e off once again.
'Cos don't they realise it's not clever,
Drinking Buckfast doon the river, Tucked in trackie bottoms,
They look just f*cking rotten!
I can't remember if I cried when saw these bams in East Kilbride,
But it ammused me deep inside, the day the bucky thrived!
And they were singin'....
Bye bye, eatin' Fray Bentos pie,
Drove the Uno roon' the toon oh wi' the techno up high,
Wearing wooly bunnets though it's nearly July
Singin', "There's that posh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!"
"There's that posh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!"
Did you write the book of sh*te
"Can I borrow ten bob, gonnae gee'za light?"
Bugger off yer full o' p*sh!
Oh and do you belive in hard core techno?
Huv ye gubbed 5 ectos fur a night at the Metro?
An can you teach me how to speak reeeaaallll slow?!
You can tell that she's in love wi' him,
Cos he's a Brig'ton Billy and she's a Tim,
They both kicked off their socks and those manky old Reeboks.
He was a scrawny youth with a GAP pull over,
A sovvy ring and a stolen Nova,
They fell in love when he muff dove 'er,
That day the Old Firm tied.
And they were singin'....
Bye bye, eatin' Fraye Bentos pie
Drove the Uno roon' the toon oh wi' the techno up high,
Wearing wooly bunnets though it's nearly July
Singin', "There's that posh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!"
"There's thatposh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!
Now for ten years you've been on the dole,
Hingin' aboot at the Paisley Toll,
And that's just how it's always been.
When the mucker screamed at the Polis van,
In a coat he'd stolen fae TopMan,
And a *** that came from you or me.
But while the cop was looking dapper,
The wee bam chibbed him on the napper,
Dressed all in Kappa clobber,
As he shouted, "suck ma dob b e r!".
While wee Tam stole a shirt fae 'Mark's',
And Boab slashed some c*nt in the park,
They all buzzed petrol in the dark,
The day a rozzer died.
And they were singin'....
Bye bye, eatin' Fraye Bentos pie
Drove the Uno roon' the toon oh wi' the techno up high,
Wearing wooly bunnets though it's nearly July
Singin', "There's that posh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!"
"There's thatposh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!
Helter Skelter, if the wean cries belt 'er
Writing mentions on the old bus shelter,
Eight days straight drinking Faaaaaaaaaast!
Doin' six month for selling smack,
The chip pan diet and the heart attack
A night out at Archaos wi' the burd.
The Sengas reek of cheap perfume,
While name-tags jangle round the room,
Each one grabs her geezzer,
A *** and lemon Breezer.
The lack of class is hard to hide,
They cannae wait to get inside,
A stair-heid winch and a door-way ride,
That's how the Muckers thrive
And they were singin'....
Bye bye, eatin' Fraye Bentos pie
Drove the Uno roon' the toon oh wi' the techno up high,
Wearing wooly bunnets though it's nearly July
Singin', "There's that posh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!"
"There's thatposh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!
You'll see them in their usual places,
With silly hats and ugly faces,
Ootside the offy acting hard.
So Shug be nimble, Shug be quick,
And get an ounce of speed on tick
Then cut it up and sell it to yer pals.
All lined up ootside the "Paki's",
A rainbow of exotic trackies,
Giein' abuse tae grannies,
Ya f*cked up bunch of fannies!
And as the day turns in to night,
The neds may gang up to start a fight,
But on their own they're soft as sh*te!
I've made a Mucker cry!
And they were singin'....
Bye bye, eatin' Fraye Bentos pie
Drove the Uno roon' the toon oh wi' the techno up high,
Wearing wooly bunnets though it's nearly July
Singin', "There's that posh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!"
"There's thatposh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!
(Slowly with feeling)
I met a girl who sang 'The Sash', I asked about her pant moustache,
But she just told me to f*ck off!
I went down to the local chippy,
Where the Neds hung out and the staff were nippy,
And the muckers there harassed me for some fags.
Baseball hats at stupid angles,
The girls each wore three dozen bangles,
Hair done up with scrunchies,
Munching crisps and Crunchies.
But the three meals they enjoy the most,
Are chinky, chippy, beans on toast,
Come Glasgow fair they hit the coast,
The day the mucker thrived
And they were singin'....
Bye bye, eatin' Fraye Bentos pie
Drove the Uno roon' the toon oh wi' the techno up high,
Wearing wooly bunnets though it's nearly July
Singin', "There's that posh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!"
"There's thatposh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!
I've had the misfortune of living in Harlem NY at a time when your "NEDS" were particularly prominent.
But to me they were just known as gangstas or hoods.
I'm an ex-pat Brit living in Germany and I don't think they really have the equivalent here. You do see Punk types and of course the stereotype Metal fans but mainly the younger ones here are some weird blend of American/British fashion mistakes who you tend to find hanging about at train stations at night eating burgers and drinking fizzy drinks and smoking cigarettes, dropping in English words and phrases into German sentances, eg. "Cool!" and " you can't touch this" (Honestly!)
I think the English version of our neds is 'chavs',
Yes, Neds. We have Chavs, townies, casuals, even pikeys. I know them well, so do many people who have ever walked past McDonalds. The are pretty much hated by everyone but themselves. Mike Skinner jumped on the bandwagon, they suddenly became fashionable and got a boost for that oh so inflated self opinion they have.
But what are they at root? They are mostly teenagers, even those scary ones in the hoodies harbour a scrawny teenage boy with no real idea of what is what. And that's the point. On the whole chavs, like many other teenage trends, have not quite got it all worked out yet. There is so little inside yet that they have to make a lot of noise and huddle together with recognisable symbols of group identity (sportswear) in order to feel anything about themselves.
Or perhaps they're just kids having fun, and seemingly they can't have that without letting the rest of us know.
Whatever they are i'm afraid they do seem to be a rather British phenomenon. Even with popular white middle class culture seeping over from the US (such as 50 cent who's clever (or stupid) social comment "Get rich or die trying" has inspired many young people to disrespect just about anything in an ultimately vain material race to the 'top') it does at heart seem to be a Brit thing.
No one else could do punk like the UK, we have the best skinheads in the world, possibly bar Germany, and don't forget the Spice Girls came from the UK too. I am fairly well travelled, I have seen a lot of disillusioned youth, but I have never seen chavs, or neds anywhere but the UK. I have seen things that look like them, there are many baseball caps in Vietnam, there are gangs of youths in sportswear in the South of France, but there only seem to be Chavs and varuious AKAs in the UK.
So in conclusion to an ill-advised rant, they're particular to the UK as far as i've seen. I'm so proud.
JoJo - LOVE the song. What a hoot!
A serious question?
it's winter in the UK and i have the day to myself tommorow. what shall i do?
is it normal for a peson to sleep on a mattress on the floor? no bed?
Who of you deserves eternal life?
Why do people think The Cure are depressing?
what make petrol?
What makes a person someone as opposed to nobody?
So, how can one learn to react in a happy way?
Answers:
Please explain what you mean by NEDS.
Thanks. Agree with #3 Chav's
What are NEDS? Are they like English CHAV's?
Chavs or ASBO kids.
I was horrified to find out that west midlands has CHAVS..how distressing!!
In Salford we call them scrotes.
As a fellow Glaswegian I feel I have to explain what a NED is first ...
its a form of tracksuit wearing, buckfast/mad dog 20-20/merrydown drinking teen or sometimes 20 something who is aggressive towards everyone including their own reflection..
usually found in packs shouting things like, "Whit you lookin at ya dobber/nugget/heavy dafty/slabber cabbage," and they will proceed to walk over to you to give you a Glasgow kiss (which isnt a peck on the cheek!) or to chib you (and that aint a gentle tickle either)....
NEDS are mostly misunderstood by us all which is why the police love them so and generally like to pick them up on a friday night to take them to the station for a stern talking to i.e. a swift kicking...
they are funny to watch too - but just dont laugh AT them, pretend to laugh WITH them if you value your belongings and/or life !
very good question btw..
In N.Ireland, the boys are called spides or steeks and the girls are called millies.
lol- I did not think they would have definition for it. Search for Google.
They are essentially a post industrial, late adolescent version of the peasant.
They serve a funcion as a locus for a society's self-hatred. All the qualities that the Scots like least about themselves can be located in the NED (aggresion, poor dress sense, lack of purpose, ugliness, alcholic tendencies, parochialism, petty nationaism, philistinism/hatred of culture, collectivism/lack of individuality), who is then subjected to scorn.
It might be pointed out that many of these qualities are the flip side of the Porestant value system that led Scotland to be, in the past, such a successful nation.
I have not seen their like in Brazil, where I now live. The peasantry are different here.
Ive stayed in Germany for a couple of years now and i haven't seen a trace of burberry. They still have delinquents but they seem to flagging behind us fortunate Brits and still have to tolerate skinheads, punks etc.
Non educated delinquents and chavs are one and the same...but they are funny to watch in a well lit place
Neds or no Neds , I like Glasgow kiss.
Chavs seems fairly universal in England now, but back in the day in Birmingham we used to call them Kevs and Shazzas, have heard Bazzas in Cambridge and charvers in Newcastle also.
Unfortunately they do seem to be everywhere in the UK, but there isn't really a US equivalent, so there's at least one country that's chav free.
Oh yeah, and chav (like ned) has its origin in an alleged acronym - Council Housing And Violent
Yeah. I live in Plymouth and we call them "Swillies".
Every town has it's chavs and most countries do too.
Here in the USA we call them RED NECKS. Theyre a class of their own. they dont believe in being walked on nor told how to live their lives. Some are illeterate some are college professors. They will defend their home and their land with blood if they had too. And they will protect you if you ask. Oh, by the way i am a 100% Red Neck White Boy from North Carolina, USA
and they are usually out of their heads on some drug or another, complete losers!!!
NEDS are looked down upon but serve a purpose in the economy.They purchase value added products like designer clothing,consume media like tabloids and cable television.They eat fast food and drink alcohol and wager at places like NEDbrokes.There is a term in America "whigger" which is a white person who adopts the black hip hop culture.They spend money on chrome wheels and athletic clothing.One does not call them that name just like you do not go up and call someone a chav.They display their status like the middle class display status-as far as their credit line will allow.
The global economic system can produce so efficiently that labor is in vast excess,only the well educated can compete and one wrong step will cement your social class in a stratified society.Life as an unnecessary spectator causes psychological escapism that manifests in escapist behavior.The peasant analogy is good and should be said that everywhere they are exploited and kept ignorant by the classes above.They have political power but are kept helpless with pathology then are insulted.
You may all appreciate this done to the tune of American Pie
Glaswegian Pie
A long long time ago,
I can still remember how those weeji bampots made me laugh,
And I know if I had a chance to see those Neds and Sengas dance,
I'd laugh my f*cking ar*e off once again.
'Cos don't they realise it's not clever,
Drinking Buckfast doon the river, Tucked in trackie bottoms,
They look just f*cking rotten!
I can't remember if I cried when saw these bams in East Kilbride,
But it ammused me deep inside, the day the bucky thrived!
And they were singin'....
Bye bye, eatin' Fray Bentos pie,
Drove the Uno roon' the toon oh wi' the techno up high,
Wearing wooly bunnets though it's nearly July
Singin', "There's that posh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!"
"There's that posh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!"
Did you write the book of sh*te
"Can I borrow ten bob, gonnae gee'za light?"
Bugger off yer full o' p*sh!
Oh and do you belive in hard core techno?
Huv ye gubbed 5 ectos fur a night at the Metro?
An can you teach me how to speak reeeaaallll slow?!
You can tell that she's in love wi' him,
Cos he's a Brig'ton Billy and she's a Tim,
They both kicked off their socks and those manky old Reeboks.
He was a scrawny youth with a GAP pull over,
A sovvy ring and a stolen Nova,
They fell in love when he muff dove 'er,
That day the Old Firm tied.
And they were singin'....
Bye bye, eatin' Fraye Bentos pie
Drove the Uno roon' the toon oh wi' the techno up high,
Wearing wooly bunnets though it's nearly July
Singin', "There's that posh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!"
"There's thatposh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!
Now for ten years you've been on the dole,
Hingin' aboot at the Paisley Toll,
And that's just how it's always been.
When the mucker screamed at the Polis van,
In a coat he'd stolen fae TopMan,
And a *** that came from you or me.
But while the cop was looking dapper,
The wee bam chibbed him on the napper,
Dressed all in Kappa clobber,
As he shouted, "suck ma dob b e r!".
While wee Tam stole a shirt fae 'Mark's',
And Boab slashed some c*nt in the park,
They all buzzed petrol in the dark,
The day a rozzer died.
And they were singin'....
Bye bye, eatin' Fraye Bentos pie
Drove the Uno roon' the toon oh wi' the techno up high,
Wearing wooly bunnets though it's nearly July
Singin', "There's that posh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!"
"There's thatposh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!
Helter Skelter, if the wean cries belt 'er
Writing mentions on the old bus shelter,
Eight days straight drinking Faaaaaaaaaast!
Doin' six month for selling smack,
The chip pan diet and the heart attack
A night out at Archaos wi' the burd.
The Sengas reek of cheap perfume,
While name-tags jangle round the room,
Each one grabs her geezzer,
A *** and lemon Breezer.
The lack of class is hard to hide,
They cannae wait to get inside,
A stair-heid winch and a door-way ride,
That's how the Muckers thrive
And they were singin'....
Bye bye, eatin' Fraye Bentos pie
Drove the Uno roon' the toon oh wi' the techno up high,
Wearing wooly bunnets though it's nearly July
Singin', "There's that posh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!"
"There's thatposh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!
You'll see them in their usual places,
With silly hats and ugly faces,
Ootside the offy acting hard.
So Shug be nimble, Shug be quick,
And get an ounce of speed on tick
Then cut it up and sell it to yer pals.
All lined up ootside the "Paki's",
A rainbow of exotic trackies,
Giein' abuse tae grannies,
Ya f*cked up bunch of fannies!
And as the day turns in to night,
The neds may gang up to start a fight,
But on their own they're soft as sh*te!
I've made a Mucker cry!
And they were singin'....
Bye bye, eatin' Fraye Bentos pie
Drove the Uno roon' the toon oh wi' the techno up high,
Wearing wooly bunnets though it's nearly July
Singin', "There's that posh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!"
"There's thatposh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!
(Slowly with feeling)
I met a girl who sang 'The Sash', I asked about her pant moustache,
But she just told me to f*ck off!
I went down to the local chippy,
Where the Neds hung out and the staff were nippy,
And the muckers there harassed me for some fags.
Baseball hats at stupid angles,
The girls each wore three dozen bangles,
Hair done up with scrunchies,
Munching crisps and Crunchies.
But the three meals they enjoy the most,
Are chinky, chippy, beans on toast,
Come Glasgow fair they hit the coast,
The day the mucker thrived
And they were singin'....
Bye bye, eatin' Fraye Bentos pie
Drove the Uno roon' the toon oh wi' the techno up high,
Wearing wooly bunnets though it's nearly July
Singin', "There's that posh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!"
"There's thatposh wee c*nt fae Milngavie!
I've had the misfortune of living in Harlem NY at a time when your "NEDS" were particularly prominent.
But to me they were just known as gangstas or hoods.
I'm an ex-pat Brit living in Germany and I don't think they really have the equivalent here. You do see Punk types and of course the stereotype Metal fans but mainly the younger ones here are some weird blend of American/British fashion mistakes who you tend to find hanging about at train stations at night eating burgers and drinking fizzy drinks and smoking cigarettes, dropping in English words and phrases into German sentances, eg. "Cool!" and " you can't touch this" (Honestly!)
I think the English version of our neds is 'chavs',
Yes, Neds. We have Chavs, townies, casuals, even pikeys. I know them well, so do many people who have ever walked past McDonalds. The are pretty much hated by everyone but themselves. Mike Skinner jumped on the bandwagon, they suddenly became fashionable and got a boost for that oh so inflated self opinion they have.
But what are they at root? They are mostly teenagers, even those scary ones in the hoodies harbour a scrawny teenage boy with no real idea of what is what. And that's the point. On the whole chavs, like many other teenage trends, have not quite got it all worked out yet. There is so little inside yet that they have to make a lot of noise and huddle together with recognisable symbols of group identity (sportswear) in order to feel anything about themselves.
Or perhaps they're just kids having fun, and seemingly they can't have that without letting the rest of us know.
Whatever they are i'm afraid they do seem to be a rather British phenomenon. Even with popular white middle class culture seeping over from the US (such as 50 cent who's clever (or stupid) social comment "Get rich or die trying" has inspired many young people to disrespect just about anything in an ultimately vain material race to the 'top') it does at heart seem to be a Brit thing.
No one else could do punk like the UK, we have the best skinheads in the world, possibly bar Germany, and don't forget the Spice Girls came from the UK too. I am fairly well travelled, I have seen a lot of disillusioned youth, but I have never seen chavs, or neds anywhere but the UK. I have seen things that look like them, there are many baseball caps in Vietnam, there are gangs of youths in sportswear in the South of France, but there only seem to be Chavs and varuious AKAs in the UK.
So in conclusion to an ill-advised rant, they're particular to the UK as far as i've seen. I'm so proud.
JoJo - LOVE the song. What a hoot!
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