Are aggressive lyrics a response to or cause of violence in society and why?
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no, but these kids have got to blame something, it can't be their fault that they behave so poorly
Just a response and embellishment. Violence in society stems from upbringing and the environment.
Sometimes, sure. but I think that most of the time they are a product of our inner feelings. The ones that we hide and don't really understand. I have written some pretty aweful things and never knew why, but I read them recently, things I wrote long ago and I think that those were just things I wrote to express how I was feeling about my parents and about bad sexual experiences and all the things that I've lost.
personally i believe that aggressive lyrics are a response to peoples life experience in the society that we now live in.life isnt always a fairytale,and i feel that songwriters are simply telling it like it is, and expressing their feelings on a life that can sometimes be harsh.i dont believe the lyrics cause violence, but feel some people can relate the lyrics to their own lives.
I personally think that its both..
What you get is some people writing lyrics that correspond to their life experiences which sometimes is of a violent or aggressive nature.We cant condemn this as it is real life and many people are still going through those experiences.
On the other hand you have those impressionable young people who may not have had these experiences but who want to identify and so act out as if 'copying' what the lyrics speak of. This is unfortunate as most of the time the music and lyrics can help individuals but there is a negative connnotation attached to this type of music because of these easily led unstable individuals..
We mustn't forget that Cameron attended Eton and P Diddy didn't.
Yeah u can say that there is frustration in the society and it is taking place in every field in lyrics too and it has good many factors like noise,water and air pollution and also people don't have time to correct there self where they go wrong and also people are working like machines no time for others and so no social life and so that frustration is seen in the lyrics too.
I think you have to ask yourself, why is it that it only seems like rappers are pulling out guns and shooting each other over comments that are viewed as a disrespect ? I don't think it's the lyrics that are the problem, I think the problem is the people who are singing the lyrics.
They get rich, they get famous and they become a role model to the young, unfortunately they behave like anything but role models. Don't ban the lyrics, don't ban rap, crack down on the people who are carrying guns and doing the shooting - rap stars or not rap stars.bang 'em up and throw away the key..not so glamorous then is it ?
Also, for all those people that say it is all to down to upbringing and background, rubbish. They say that the one of the differences between humans and animals is choice. No matter how you are brought up, when a gun is made available to you, you have a choice..to pick it up and use it, or to not pick it up. Everyone has the choice, some people make unbelievably brave and difficult choices, other people take the easy cowards route. Choice is indivdual...no matter where you come from and how you were brought up, you will know guns are wrong and illegal.
And also for people who say violent lyrics are people expressing hard upbringings and backgrounds, why doesn't War poetry in general have this violent streak ? War poetry (what I have read of it) expresses sadness, regret, anger at the waste of young life in a way that doesn't glorify violence, for most cases doesn't even mention the violence. War poetry reflects on the damage caused by violence, whereas the people writing rap, and living the 'rappers' lifestyle, appear to want to glorify the death and the killing.
It's back to the person, and what he CHOOSES !!!
Yes it is definitley a degree of both.a Rapper who experienced a life of some degree connected to or witness to crime, can write about what they have seen , heard and felt. This can be theraputic to them as way of breaking out of that lifestyle.but a person that see's that from a life of crime can come riches and rewards is going to emulate that life in some vain attempt to gain what he see's are his rightful possesions.now the fact that for every rapper that makes it there are gonna be a thousand or more wannabe's not making the money this just shows with simple mathematics that crime and violence will escalate.
I was in Toronto last christmas and a girl was out with her family on boxing day shopping. She was shot in the face by a bunch of black youths . not as a target but caught in the crossfire.
I'm sick of hearing about guns and shooting . how many songs have this in their lyrics .. I think society needs to make more of a stand . I don't think it is acceptable to consistently rap/sing about these type of things. its been done before. is there not enough of this going on the world already. Its not a good example for the younger generation.
if it was my daughter or sister etc that had been shot . I would'nt be singing about it in a song!!!!!! Thats the last thing of many i would want to do ?!
Spot on Brown Sugar. While music channels such as Channel U promote a lot of talented up and coming UK Hip Hop and Grime artists, the promotion of criminal behaviour, violence and anti social messages in many of the lyrics is all too common.
We live in a society that marginalisies and alienates people, where opportunities are severely limited for some because of inequality and discrimination. The self-esteem and overall wellbeing of the marganilised is adversely affeceted because of this. We live in a society where identity very often relies on what you have rather than who you are. It's no wonder there is so much anger and violence. At least being an angry, violent person is some kind of identity with some kind of power. Aggressive lyrics are a response to a violent society, but that doesn't make it all right. The people who put out these horrible, degrading, mysoginistic, violent lyrics validate violence by making it seem like violence makes you powerful and respected. Of course, all violence does is reinforce all the negative stereotypes society has about young people, particularly young men and, more specifically, young black men. However, it is understandable that people who will never get the respect they deserve as a human being through our institutions and society in general should gain power and control in other easier ways. Aggressive lyrics are a product of racism and sexism, but they don't challenge it, they perpetuate it.
I feel this has been a long issue spanning quite a number of years. I feel that unfortunately its not the song but the way people's minds work and how they interpret the lyrics. Song are songs but if your, psychologically unstable, easily led astray etc you may be subjected to doing what the tunes say.
I personally don't think aggressive lyrics are to blame for the way our society is .. as we know it today anyway ...
Artists reflect what is in our day to day lives creating lyrics of what we see, hear and feel ....
Greed, poverty, struggling communities, class systems, power and bad management of past and present governments are all part of it ... who is to blame? or are we going to do something about it as a world community ...
It is easy to blame but to take responsibly that is different ... media hype it all because it sells .. are we born bad .. no we are developed
When you see the videos and hear the lyrics you can understand why young people want to copy them.
These 'gangstas' glamorise guns and hanging with their gangs in the 'hood, sleeping with ho's, being surrounded by scantilly clad women, wearing more diamonds that Mr T and driving big cars.
It just gives off the impression that being a 'gangsta' will get you everything you want and respect on the streets.
They very rarely mention the reality of getting shot at, getting arrested and struggling to stay alive over the age of 25. If they did, then maybe the kids wouldn't think it's such a glamerous life.
I think they start off as a response to problems but then further encourage violence because susceptible young people who may feel fed up in their environments and who feel they have little hope of anything better find a source of power and glamour in these rap artists. It is easy to find something outside of yourself to aim towards and aspire to be when times are hard and you are down. These rappers sing about being anti the police and guns etc in a seemingly powerful way, surrounded by beautfiul women that they seem to have total control over, nice cars and a glamourous lifestyle and they seem to look and feel very sexy and powerful thus they promote having guns and this lifestyle as being sexy, powerful, glamorous and worthy of envy. I believe that young people will want to emulate them in order to feel cool, sexy, powerful and worthy of envy amongst their peers in much the same way. The reality of loss, grief, broken families and communities living in fear is not at all glamorous and is not shown, but if these rappers did then they could probably make even that look sexy which is the problem with the way they manage to make every problem seem glamorous and something to aspire towards. The problem is in singing about dangerous issues but attaching very positive images to them e.g. chocolate commercials show beautiful, slim, toned women with clear skin eating a chocolate bar - they are never spotty, overweight and stressing about the chocolate bar they just ate.
I am certain that almost all musicians, lyricists and singers do what they do out of personal experience. Until and unless you have undergone something you cannot put it on a large scale.
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It is something that you EXPECT the surroundings/world to be like.
Therefore, it can be a response or a cause or both. Aggressive lyrics are mostly a CAUSE but can be a response to violence in society.
WHY..because that is experience and/or imagination. and musicians' base, the core thought or writing composing is either experience or imagination.
Consider this, your answers stem from education and knowing what is acceptable and what isn't. You dismiss the possibility of gangsta rap encouraging people to carry weapons and become violent because it doesn't effect you in that manner.
However you have to consider that you're not everyone. Most people that post messages on forum tend, not always, have a much more developed intelligence and therefore not easily influenced by the media. But consider this the average thud that carries out violent crime doesn't have a developed intelligence and is usually very easily angered.
When you think about these people may listen to violent lyrics is it that hard to think that they might have been influenced by them?
Consider this isn't, if a man watches hardcore pornography of woman being abused is it such a surprise if he begins to abuse his lovers? This is exactly the same principle behind violent rap, it talks about murdering and shooting and assault like it is normal and acceptable.
No wonder people are getting more violent.
"hey joe, where you gonna go with that gun in your hand" as sung by Jimi Hendrix
"put a gun to his head" as sung by Queen. Yet I don't see all 50 somthings, going around waving guns, likewise I don't see hundreds of thousands of rap fans going around "popping slugs in yo a**" (i am not a rap fan or a fan of rock music)
This is Scandalous. What an ignorantly ridiculous and misinformed statement for some politician to say. This just goes to show just how out of touch most of today’s politicians are with the young people. This has to be settled here and now, once and for all. All you wanna-be politicians pay attention to us young people. Don't get me wrong, some Rappers' lyrics are not exactly songs from heaven BUT Rap music lyrics are not the cause of violence in society, get it? Instead of pointing fingers at Rap music, what the Tories need to be doing is to give us some REAL FACTS and POLICIES rather than just a lot of throwaway positions they take in a desperate attempt to change their lousy image. Facts and Policies which they completely ignored at their last party conference. There are a combination of different factors that cause violence in people, but when it comes to the entertainment industry, its utterly preposterous to blame Rap music while ignoring even worse genres like hard metal. The list goes on from kids cartoon programmes like Tom and Jerry, Road Runner, to violent video games, to big Hollywood blockbusters. David Cameron better get your act together dude. One Luv, The Basher of Hip Hop Haters.
I think that the profanity in songs makes it more acceptable for people to swear and verbally abuse others. The commonplace action of verbally abusing people in the streets leads to a volatile environment and utlimately violence.
I don't think it is the cuase but it definitely does not help and makes the verbal abuse of others somewhat acceptable. It would be nice to see someone take the opposite approach
yes i think it does cause a lot of problems in society ..kids want to be like there idol ..so they copy and act out what there idols are doing or singing about .causing them to be aggressive.these so called singers who sing aggressive songs have got problems in my oppinion .. and the people that play them on the radio have why else would they want to be singing aggressive songs..yes i am an older person.In my days we had our idols we copied.but they sang beautiful songs ..ballads..which does reflect on a person.may i also add those songs are still going today ..but the songs they make and play today you wont be hearing them in twenty years time.or even thirty years time..
"hey joe, where you gonna go with that gun in your hand" as sung by Jimi Hendrix
"put a gun to his head" as sung by Queen. Yet I don't see all 50 somthings, going around waving guns, likewise I don't see hundreds of thousands of rap fans going around "popping slugs in yo a**"
Spawnee you've totally lost the plot, these lyrics aren't glamourising guns. When you see a bunch of rappers waving chrome plated desert eagles about shouting "I'm going to pop a cap in yo ******* *** and I'm blinging it with my Bentley with 30" wheels" then to youngsters this could seem glamorous. I agree with David Cameron's comments.
i don't think they do its more to do with the person listening to the music. i listen to allot of rap music and it is full of violence and i have never done anything that has been mentioned on the songs I'm listening to I'm 26 years old and have listened to rap music since i was about 12 and it has never made me feel mad or want to do anything illegal and the people who blame rap music for some1s actions are just looking a scape got in my opinion
I have been into Rap music since 1988 and in 1993 I got into the underground Hip Hop scene including Gangsta rap.
Gangsta rap is the best rap for me but it has never changed me cause I know it is just music and not my way of life. The way the lyrics are in the songs, the rappers are talking about life as they see it. I dont think they encourage violance but being they see it they rap about it.
If somebody goes out with weapons and assults people, they should blame themselves not the music of TV as they are not responseable for peoples lives. I know this is just entertainment.
People are quick to blame something or someone else for their actions as it is the easy way out and it allows the criminal to share the blame.
Yes aggressive lyrics can add to bad behaviour and violence even though people are responsible for their own actions, I just think it sends out bad vibes, bad atitudes and creates a bad atmosphere.
Politicians always look for something to blame when they can't have the society they want. Rap music (And personally, I think "Rap" is spelled with a silent 'C') is a convenient target, like computer games. Not so long ago, "Heavy metal" was also being blamed for the ills of society.
Dave should have more to worry about than pop music, but I hope he enjoys having tea with Rhymefest.
i'm sure there is some extreme idiots who take being a fan of this type of music too far but thats not the fault of the rappers or their lyrics,.. if you had to ban this type of lyrical content then surely you must also ban violent movie content, violent game content and even ban the news from being shown on tv before 9pm as it shows and talks about violence freely during daytime tv viewing and nobody complains about that.
in my mind, if someone is going to carry a gun or knife, or steal a car. its in them to do that,,, to suggest they were perfect citizens until they heard a few rap songs is just plain stupid. we had all this media panic when grand theft auto came out on game consoles, mass hysteria when the exorcist was first released, a call to ban gun related video games after the dunblane incident etc. to suggest these things can be that influencial is just plain crazy, give the public some credit for christsake.
there was no rap music when i was a kid and i ran about with toy guns,,, i'm sure generations before me ran about with toy swords. boys have always done this, should we put a ban on that also ?. of course not..
Aggressive lyrics may cause violence in those who have had a bad upbringing or are of poor character, but to claim that the same would apply to any morally upright person is pure garbage.
The way people are bought up is the biggest factor - I f they are not disciplined from early , this can often lead to trouble. I know many people who listen to the music and they are no way violent - its an individual thing- some take it too literally. They see the rappers with their bling, girls and think - I want to be like them but how many true gangster rappers have ended up happy - it always ends in destruction. Some of the rappers have not even been brought up in the ghetto - if you havent your made to feel left out. Rap needs to be more positive - the youths are throwing their lives away!
nope.cuz they're just lyrics. they do not demand or direct you to go pick up a gun and shoot someone. lyrics are just an expression of emotion. and that david cameron can go shoot himself for critisizing rap music. (not literally. but yeah. he's so biased and prejudice towards rap music. thats just stupid.)
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