I heard this quote and somehow it made sense to me - 'We only die because we accept it as an inevitability'
what do you think?
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Aha, at last, a universally encompassing life and death question to chew the metaphysical fat over. I'm licking my lips with glee.
Don't want to kill your aspirations old chum but, 113 year old people apart, do you really know of anyone who is living for ever. Human beings long, long time ago deduced the patterns of life cycle. With that knowledge came on very stark realisation. We are born, we die. That one unalterable fact, one which, sadly, large numbers of mankind dwell morbidly upon is the FACT of our own death. The prefer not to look at the ULTIMATE truth of their own mortality and in certain extreme conditions this can lead to a personality dissociation. Fantasy and wishful thinking can take over and - if you're not careful - lunacy can come creeping up behind. When a person embarks upon this course, he or she can, try vainly to manipulate reality in their minds or, even worse, they can set themselves on a course of fatalistic non-involvement, purposeless and devoid of hope and meaning.
Should we not - given that we have a life - question the reason we do have one and make it as glorious and fulfilling as possible, instead of being consumed by this slow plod toward the inevitable.
Some people believe life is just a step, a phase in the evolution of the soul. I make reference to it here, but will leave it at that for now because it's a seperate question, begging for longer study. Maybe that way we can learn to embrace the glory of our own death. AT IT'S PROPER TIME, though and not at the wrong time through neglect, abandonment, malice and such
so if we didnt accept it we would live forever, life doent make sense to me so i just go with what i get
Its alright but,The dead know only one thing,it is better to be alive.
true on at least one level
I think that unfortunately we are going to die regardless. but.. I have known terminally ill people that have been expected to die any minute now type thing and they have hung on for weeks because they have been determined to do or see something before they die, such as see a loved one for one last time. so i do think that if someone has a really strong will to live then it can definitely prolong the life
youve been dieing since the day you were born.The horsemen are drawing nearer,on leather steads they ride,theyve come to take your life.
I would phrase it slightly differently: "we accept the inevitability of death because we all die"
Just for the record, you're quoting freakin' Family Guy.
yeah. i tihnk that is pretty true
Well they have brought me back to life at least once. So does that mean I'm only here because I didn't believe in death. Even though I experienced it.
I think therefore I am- To be or not to be- the power of positive thinking- if I ever get the chance to meet someone who makes it out of here alive-I will have to ask him how he did it-and if it happens to be the same man who made up that quote-I am screwed!
dying is the beginning of a new life, a brighter and much happier life with the Lord who loves us deeply. Its a beautiful experience.
Our death does not exist without our continued existence albeit dead. Therefore, in order for us to die we must exist.
If we are already dead, then it is not possible to die again. If we still exist when we are dead, we do not accept that it is inevitable that we will die.
Therefore, the corrollory to your thesis is that "we only live because we can die".
The lemma to this statement is, "we can't die if we are already dead"
Your first quote: there may well be a little truth in it. Perhaps the people who lived to 113 simply expected to keep living? Perhaps The Queen Mum was so determined to make it to 100 and over, that it gave her an enormous surge of force?
But I actually believe there is a life-span to every living thing, more or less, and this includes all animals, fish, trees, etc.
I have seen 2000 year-old olive-trees, and everyone knows some wonderful big old trees which have been around for many more years than humans.
Your 2nd quote makes life sound rather futile..'to exist in order to exist' is not, to me, enough motivation for a life.
I would rather think: "We exist in order to help our dependents, or other people, who find existence very painful or difficult."
Make your own mark on the world and you will never die! You can only truly die if you are forgotten.
Rubbish! Death is 'the end of life'. We have to accept it as inevitability (at least at the physical level). The only thing that we can choose to believe about death happens at the spiritual level which involves what you believe happens to your soul/mind/self/spirit. You may see death as 'ceasing to exist' (physically, and/or spiritually) or you may see death as moving on to another life. But death par se IS inevitable. What is death to you?
This is an example of the axiom. Just because there is a period at the end of a string of words does not make it true.
Only the young who think they are invincible would be persuaded to believe your statement could be true. We die for many reasons and from many causes but the real truth is..
NOBODY GETS OUT OF HERE ALIVE.
It is closer to true that we can influence how long we live by the choices we make. Healthy habits or unhealthy habits.
We only die because our bodies malfunction or we have a fatal accident or are murdered or commit suicide.
Nobody lives forever. Nobody.
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Answers:
Aha, at last, a universally encompassing life and death question to chew the metaphysical fat over. I'm licking my lips with glee.
Don't want to kill your aspirations old chum but, 113 year old people apart, do you really know of anyone who is living for ever. Human beings long, long time ago deduced the patterns of life cycle. With that knowledge came on very stark realisation. We are born, we die. That one unalterable fact, one which, sadly, large numbers of mankind dwell morbidly upon is the FACT of our own death. The prefer not to look at the ULTIMATE truth of their own mortality and in certain extreme conditions this can lead to a personality dissociation. Fantasy and wishful thinking can take over and - if you're not careful - lunacy can come creeping up behind. When a person embarks upon this course, he or she can, try vainly to manipulate reality in their minds or, even worse, they can set themselves on a course of fatalistic non-involvement, purposeless and devoid of hope and meaning.
Should we not - given that we have a life - question the reason we do have one and make it as glorious and fulfilling as possible, instead of being consumed by this slow plod toward the inevitable.
Some people believe life is just a step, a phase in the evolution of the soul. I make reference to it here, but will leave it at that for now because it's a seperate question, begging for longer study. Maybe that way we can learn to embrace the glory of our own death. AT IT'S PROPER TIME, though and not at the wrong time through neglect, abandonment, malice and such
so if we didnt accept it we would live forever, life doent make sense to me so i just go with what i get
Its alright but,The dead know only one thing,it is better to be alive.
true on at least one level
I think that unfortunately we are going to die regardless. but.. I have known terminally ill people that have been expected to die any minute now type thing and they have hung on for weeks because they have been determined to do or see something before they die, such as see a loved one for one last time. so i do think that if someone has a really strong will to live then it can definitely prolong the life
youve been dieing since the day you were born.The horsemen are drawing nearer,on leather steads they ride,theyve come to take your life.
I would phrase it slightly differently: "we accept the inevitability of death because we all die"
Just for the record, you're quoting freakin' Family Guy.
yeah. i tihnk that is pretty true
Well they have brought me back to life at least once. So does that mean I'm only here because I didn't believe in death. Even though I experienced it.
I think therefore I am- To be or not to be- the power of positive thinking- if I ever get the chance to meet someone who makes it out of here alive-I will have to ask him how he did it-and if it happens to be the same man who made up that quote-I am screwed!
dying is the beginning of a new life, a brighter and much happier life with the Lord who loves us deeply. Its a beautiful experience.
Our death does not exist without our continued existence albeit dead. Therefore, in order for us to die we must exist.
If we are already dead, then it is not possible to die again. If we still exist when we are dead, we do not accept that it is inevitable that we will die.
Therefore, the corrollory to your thesis is that "we only live because we can die".
The lemma to this statement is, "we can't die if we are already dead"
Your first quote: there may well be a little truth in it. Perhaps the people who lived to 113 simply expected to keep living? Perhaps The Queen Mum was so determined to make it to 100 and over, that it gave her an enormous surge of force?
But I actually believe there is a life-span to every living thing, more or less, and this includes all animals, fish, trees, etc.
I have seen 2000 year-old olive-trees, and everyone knows some wonderful big old trees which have been around for many more years than humans.
Your 2nd quote makes life sound rather futile..'to exist in order to exist' is not, to me, enough motivation for a life.
I would rather think: "We exist in order to help our dependents, or other people, who find existence very painful or difficult."
Make your own mark on the world and you will never die! You can only truly die if you are forgotten.
Rubbish! Death is 'the end of life'. We have to accept it as inevitability (at least at the physical level). The only thing that we can choose to believe about death happens at the spiritual level which involves what you believe happens to your soul/mind/self/spirit. You may see death as 'ceasing to exist' (physically, and/or spiritually) or you may see death as moving on to another life. But death par se IS inevitable. What is death to you?
This is an example of the axiom. Just because there is a period at the end of a string of words does not make it true.
Only the young who think they are invincible would be persuaded to believe your statement could be true. We die for many reasons and from many causes but the real truth is..
NOBODY GETS OUT OF HERE ALIVE.
It is closer to true that we can influence how long we live by the choices we make. Healthy habits or unhealthy habits.
We only die because our bodies malfunction or we have a fatal accident or are murdered or commit suicide.
Nobody lives forever. Nobody.
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